Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

The evidence of the past week would very much suggest otherwise, sadly.

I think it's both TBH.

Farage is walking a tightrope to fan the flames and still have plausible deniability.

Such a lazy comment.

So you think we have millions of 'nazis' in the UK suddenly do you? Okay, well I disagree.

Ah, now we're getting somewhere, but again, it's hard to answer without the details. So you'll need to be a bit more specific. Where is this occurring, and what are the massive issues?

In my own town, we've seen a noticeable change in demographics over the last decade or so, but we don't have any massive issues with migrant communities or their failure to integrate, so these issues aren't representative of migrant communities as a whole.

We dont actually have millions of rioters either. Just enough to set fire to buildings and put police in hospital.

This is beyond parody.

You might have missed my question @Hummingbird75 . Have you ever seen a far Right demonstration in the flesh? I'm kind of guessing not but don't want to assume.

@Hummingbird75 Maybe he is German or from elsewhere?

Do you think a Nazi salute in Germany or another country in 2024 is somehow less racist?

There is thankfully only a small number of people happy to pace the streets screaming “Paki’s out! Send them home!” but that doesn’t make the behaviour any less dangerous or disgusting.

Many dangerous psychopaths are very intelligent.

It's you who seems to be fond of the use of "millions", including a vast overestimate of British casualties in WW2, BTW.

Yes I have seen them in London on more than one occasion, and I have seen many riots in London to be fair. I didn't see any nazis, not a single one, just lots of football shirts.

One’s more than enough. Sadly there are more than enough to worry about.

As far as I understand, it is not the new arrivals who are rioting. And to my mind those that are rioting are not integrated into British society, and representing British values.

Meanwhile: When do I, or the class/political demographic I identify with, get to choose our favourite policy hobbyhorse and have a national referendum, with the power to change the nation's future trajectory for the better or (unfortunately) much much worse, designed around it specially for us?

What?

I was more or less with you up to that point.

It's called democracy. It's not a class bear that's being shared erratically. You vote and lobby and organise for your interests and viewpoint.

I might not like the current manifestations of democracy but let's not blame the democratic system itself.

He'd be arrested if he did it in Germany.

You have entirely ignored the history, which is worrying. You might like to consider that first before you post.

Many dangerous psychopaths are very intelligent.

Quite.

Well it would have been great if we had kept the sure start schemes - I’m not sure though why I would have specifically mentioned those - we need more I oat ice like these that underprivileged white Boyd can access.

But, you’ve kind of answered the point, the schemes that are successful in helping young who’re underprivileged boys have disappeared

I am actually very close to reporting your posts. It is NOT okay to use the P word and I massively object to your racist slur.

What utter, absolute, nonsensical bollocks.

People are travelling to these riots, many of them are not smashing up their own towns but someone else's.

They're not desperate people shouting to be heard; they're being whipped up by very dangerous online agitators to serve the agenda of people like Farage who are not acting in the best interests of the country.

You refuse to acknowledge the influence of online disinformation in these riots - in the lies that are deliberately seeded and spread across Telegram and what was Twitter among other channels, but that's what's fuelling it.

And there is a lot more going on than 'shouting'. This is orchestrated, targeted, deliberate violence.

Yes and they didn't disappear because of immigrants. That is the point. So to then say that the reasons they aren't going far is because of immigrants is not only wrong, but it's laughable. You can't condense such a complex issue into "immigrants"

There is quite a big scale between "millions" and "minimal" and I'm not the person asserting either.

We have enough Nazi sympathisers for them to be enthusiastically rioting, holding the whole country hostage and being photographed with their sympathies on full display (tatts/salutes etc). They are not "minimal" in my opinion.

As do I. Tell that to the people protesting with their children on the streets of Belfast screaming it.

Anyone who things these are demonstrations from people with reasonable values is deluded. This is what these people think and SAY in public. They don’t give a shit, they don’t have “valid concerns” about immigration they are just flat out racists who only want to stir up trouble.
So I take great issue with the posters trying to validate this behaviour and these demonstrations.

You seemed to have swallowed 'the explanation' hook, line and sinker my friend.

It was all orchestrated by the nasty Russians, nothing to do with the real issues in this country. Okaay....

None of the posters who have commented on the size of Reform's vote share and lack of seats in parliament, have been able to answer whether they campaigned and voted for change when we had a referendum.

I have concluded that perhaps they did not vote then. I wonder why that could be?