Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

It is so incredibly patronising and offensive to suggest that rioting is the only way that some people have of communicating.

I work with some of the most vulnerable people in society - poor, marginalised, not well educated, often illiterate and certainly not well connected. The vast majority of them are decent people trying their best to live in incredibly difficult circumstances. They are not filled with hate like some on these boards. How fucking dare you suggest that these people can only communicate through smashing things up and setting fire to stuff. Do you realise how horribly insulting that is?

Do you have a link? I can only find stats similar to the Guardian.

@Alwaystired94

Sure but if I think people already here should have priority

I have to go to work.

I hope for a peaceful solution, which would look something like government engagement in these areas to try and understand why there is so much anger and division. Not more insults and dreadful stereotyping.

We need an actual plan and policy for future integration that works and is costed. We need public support for prioritising those that are living here already (inc all new arrivals) and a pause on all future arrivals until the backlog is cleared in the current bedsits and hotels. We need to get the hospitals and infrastructure in good shape so we are able to offer a decent standard of living to everyone that lives here.

The immigration policy needs to be fair and controlled, and people need to have confidence that the system isn't being completely abused, but works in the interests of the country.

We have a great nation, tolerant and generous, but something is going badly wrong and this urgently needs addressing beyond screaming 'thug' every five minutes.

Never a valid justification as to having a Nazi Tattoo.
How are we living in a world that thinks "How scary must it be for Jewish people to live under a labour government" as whataboutery in relation to full on thugs with NAZI TATTOOS on our streets burning libraries, stealing and committing violent acts.

There a million empty homes in the UK. It is not migrants* that are creating a shortage of homes, it is people who own homes, that do not have anyone living in them.
*actually quite a number of those homes are owned by foreign nationals, but that is a different issue.

Not only is it not to do with immigration, it also very much is to do with an austerity pushing conservative government who believe in small state small government, personal responsibility. Given a lot of these areas voted Tory, again, what did they expect?

Tories make cuts to social housing? Oh no, what a total surprise. How were we supposed to know that?
As though it isn’t literally ideologically at odds with conservative values!

Closing down the debate is dangerous in this scenario. That is my view

Nobody is closing down the debate. Look at us all here now, doing just that. Debating, discussing.

Definitely not condoning violence and racism, but matching outrage with outrage is a strategy guaranteed to fail

Yes you are, when you are sympathising with violent racists and wanting them to go unpunished and just sat down to have a talk with.

We will never, ever have a generous and tolerant nation if we pander to thuggery as you suggest. Smashing things up will become the new way to get things done.

Well yes, the majority of people disagreed with them.
But don’t you find it worrying how many did agree with them?
About half the amount of the winning party’s votes is not a tiny minority.

But again, why? If there is one available house and the two options are:

1. Family who need an extra bedroom due to over crowding and being price out of the private market OR
2. Family fleeing war, currently in temporary accommodation which is unsuitable.

It's down to need.

Awk look at this poor wee dote who has no choice but to succumb to Nazi ideals?
What have we done to make him feel this way?
He must have some big feelings.
If only we could have a general election to understand if the majority of the public also feel this way…

We are already a very tolerant and generous nation, which is why when things were smashed up - we saw the same number of kind people clearing it up and working together.

For every one person willing to throw a brick, there are twice that willing him to put it back down.

I am not giving up on those misguided kids and in some cases adults, whom have resorted to outright violence, because we can and should be addressing the issues, homelessness, poverty, addiction and feeling totally marginalised. In most cases it is down to very poor mental health.

I have every faith the country will come to its senses, if we are able to agree that we all want the same things at the end of the day. Security, peace, prosperity it should be available to everyone. Not just a few that live in expensive postcodes.

I know the question wasn’t directed at me, I am not one of the rioters but have lived in (and moved out of) a community destroyed by immigration.

We need to prioritise integration into British (well actually, local) culture. We need to allow pride in Britain rather than constantly talking about negatives of history etc.

This needs to start from the moment someone enters Britain or is born here.

Schools should concentrate on British culture.We need to ensure everyone culture is firstly the local/national culture s as nd their primary loyalty lies to their local community and country in which the live regardless of birthplace, religion or race. We need to ensure everyone can speak English/the local native language. Many people, especially women cant integrate, because they don’t know the language, this leaves these women very vulnerable.

We shouldn’t be having initiatives aimed at certain ethnic groups. If we want to improve peoples lot, this should be open to all.

We need to understand why young white working class boys don’t achieve as well as other groups at school.

I think spreading out migrants is a good idea. I think the make up of schools should have to broadly reflect the demographics of the county in which there are situated rather than local catchments, this would help integration across the whole of society (and probably ease the housing crisis).

We need to stop shouting racist at the police every time they go near an ethnic group.

We need to limit immigration and prioritise people already living here. Too many people on benefits have been so disenfranchised from society that they don’t want to take part or lack the ability to do so.

We need a fairer society and for people to feel they live in a fair society. If I was a white man, getting food from a food bank, no prospect of employment and someone wax shouting white male privilege at me, whilst they see initiatives to help all other groups I too might get angry.

You, are a major part of the problem

I am not giving up on those misguided kids and in some cases adults, whom have resorted to outright violence

What about that lovely specimen nazi saluting in the post above yours?
He's just a poor misguided soul who will be sorted out and see the error of his ways with a sit down? 🙄

I have every faith the country will come to its senses, if we are able to agree that we all want the same things at the end of the day

People don't all want the same things though.
I sure as hell don't want the same outcome as Nazis.

Not, of course, the person giving a Nazi salute.

@Devonbabs Schools should concentrate on British culture.Weneed to ensure everyone culture is firstly the local/national culture s as nd their primary loyalty lies to their local community and country in which the live regardless of birthplace, religion or race. We need to ensure everyone can speak English/the local native language. Many people, especially women cant integrate, because they don’t know the language, this leaves these women very vulnerable.

Why? I live in England but I’m Irish, why would by culture be English and British culture? Or is it okay because I’m white?

This man is hilarious.

Yes

And there you have it.

I’m the problem for calling a Nazi a racist?! A man literally Nazi saluting during one of these riots? But it’s more outrageous to label racism as racism?

Unbelievable!

Conspiracy theory 'Deep State' bullshit.

The 70s weren't racially harmonious. I can remember 'No dogs, blacks or Irish' signs in B&Bs.

You’re so right - it’s so counter productive. They are on self destruct mode and if every immigrant and non-white Brit left now they would still be lashing out at someone else. Zero excuse. They can tell you all the other ways to “peacefully protest” when it’s people marching over a black life lost in police custody or Gaza or stop oil. But suddenly they don’t understand how to express themselves other than riot when they have a grievance.

Did anyone hear about the library in Liverpool that was destroyed? I was pretty shocked as libraries don’t usually get targeted. I looked it up and it’s a recently refurbished library and community hub one.

They are literally destroying their future and others and we have to foot the tax bill for these violent thugs https://liverpoolexpress.co.uk/new-chapter-for-library-of-the-future/