Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

You really have a short memory don't you?

Hmm.
Didn't see anyone proposing that approach for Corbyn supporters in 2019. Or remainers in 2016.

"It is despicable to attack anyone, and even worse if it is racially aggravated.
Clearly no one in this country condones this violence, and where it has happened, racism."

Sadly some very clearly do, because they're the ones doing it.

How exactly are these people being ignored by the decision makers? They are not barred from participating in any part of the democratic process from local to national level as far as I'm aware.

And what exactly is the 'root cause' of their anger? It seems to me plenty of people are willing to state the root cause is being ignored but none are willing to articulate what that actually is, which makes addressing it somewhat difficult.

These people are being betrayed by a so called 'working class' Labour government that are nothing of the sort, and couldn't care less about the real working classes.

They need to learn a bit of patience then. We’ve had that government for 31 days. What were they expecting to happen in that time?

I fear, because you are dehumanizing them - and many of you are - you are just as bad as they are. It is a form of discrimination and contempt but you can't see it. You are no better than they are.

They are people. They deserve hope as well.

You might not agree with their views, I don't either - but stop dehumanizing. It only creates more entrenchment.

This is why this country is really going to suffer. There is no capacity to even try and understand where this anger is coming from. So I give up. I can't even debate it properly on here. It is shame for you guys.

Don't be shocked when things get worse.

So you’re just pissed off Farage isn’t in power. Well, I’m pissed off the Greens aren’t in power, what should I go out and set fire to? Can I come round and smash all of the windows in your house?

Ah, the old trope about "people with nothing to lose" committing desperate acts ....

Pfft. These people have plenty to lose. Their freedom where they have committed crime. The respect and ear of anyone who opposes violence. Their civil liberties as their actions increase surveillance and profiling. Their own demands, partly catered to by Brexit have negatively impacted trade and the economy and their own freedom of movement.

And they will cause everyone else to lose alot as well.

Interesting isn't it?
They were about slamming people on benefits, those on PIP and so on.

Weird that when it suits them they feel they know exactly how disadvantaged people are. Not like the left have been pushing that for the last 14 years almost.

Well I'd say anyone who ISN'T out on the streets giving Nazi salutes, putting police in hospital and burning down libraries is better than those who are.

itsgettingweird
I have many friends with places abroad
Funnily enough many of them voted for Brexit - who now are fuming

I have many friends with places abroad - none of them are fuming and they continue to use their second homes as they did before.

So I give up. I can't even debate it properly on here. It is shame for you guys.

Don't be shocked when things get worse

Do you live in the UK?

We're not dehumanising them, they are humans. Not nice one's but they are human.

You don't see Lions doing this do you?

They are people. They deserve hope as well.
If the only way they can have hope is by looting shops, being violent towards POC and fighting our police force i'd say they aren't entitled to their version of hope. What they are entitled to is a better life where we minimise the damage caused by Austerity. Where we give people better access to jobs, housing and healthcare.

Agreed

Some people have a lot to learn about cohesive societies.

An inclusive society is the aim, if you can't even attempt to look at the world through a different lens, where there is suffering, hopelessness and anger, then there is nothing I can do to help you with that.

Yes of course I live here in England and I have seen this all before in the 80s.

I don't think the people you're defending share your aim of an 'inclusive society'.

So lets ask why!

Lets not just say you are filth or whatever. Why not ask questions. Where is the fear coming from?

You are too quick to write off huge swathes of the country, without even taking the time to look at the core issues. It is lazy.

Nope. It's one small step from "Get out P*kis" to "White Straight Men only"

Funny how it's all about inclusion and tolerance when it's the white right wing being held to account.

You’ve got gangs of white men burning buildings, gangs of Muslim men running round with machetes.

Both groups attacking members of the ‘other group’ (random lone passers by) en masse.

I can’t see how this can be de-escalated.

ANYONE caught causing criminal damage, carrying weapons or behaving violently needs to be prosecuted and imprisoned.

There should be no tolerance, for either group

Starmer has one job as the PM of the whole country and that was to lower the temperature, show some skill and diplomacy and actually start to lead the country properly.

I am aghast at his wooden scripted speech that actually incited more violence.

''@Hummingbird75 · Today 12:41
I fear, because you are dehumanizing them - and many of you are - you are just as bad as they are. It is a form of discrimination and contempt but you can't see it. You are no better than they are.

They are people. They deserve hope as well.

You might not agree with their views, I don't either - but stop dehumanizing. It only creates more entrenchment.

This is why this country is really going to suffer. There is no capacity to even try and understand where this anger is coming from. So I give up. I can't even debate it properly on here. It is shame for you guys.

Don't be shocked when things get worse.''

What a lot of rubbish.

'You are no better than they are'.

Actually, yes I am: as I don't feel the need to set fire to buildings that house people and try to trap them inside and I would not be caught dead doing nazi salutes or having swastikas tattooed on my body.I also don't feel the need to assault police officers and blame my own failures on immigrants.

Any decent, civilised person is better that these thugs and we should condemn. their behaviour.

People are entitled to different views but not to break the law and bring fear and violence on the streets or loot businesses.

It was the "you guys" part that made me wonder.

The rioters aren't 'huge swathes' of society and their anger is coming from a toxic mixture of the disastrous effects of Tory austerity and the horrifying spread of incendiary disinformation online.