Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

It is very common here, as you would know if YOU lived here.

How can this be a Labour problem? They've been the government for 4 weeks when the stabbings happened. Not long enough to have made a difference to anything. Certainly not long enough to have caused the disaffection in these town and cities that resulted in the riots.
At the moment Starmer is firefighting. He has to stop the violence and burning and looting. And these people are criminals. Not just or even necessarily right wing, but opportunists. See the guy pictured looting from Lush and the phone shop. They are not people to have conversations with.
Conversations on any legitimate concerns can be held. But not with the people who riot.

I've said elsewhere there are divisions and inequalities in British society, some of them very deep rooted, some caused by the death of our manufacturing industries that has done irreparable damage to communities, unaddressed by successive governments including many years of the Tories. I just don't believe immigration is responsible for them. There is the ballot box and many, many other peaceful means of making your views heard that don't involve rioting.

I have enough experience of the far Right to know that they don't give a damn about injustice and poverty and I have no hesitation in calling a sieg heiling, swastika tattooed yob throwing bricks at a mosque a fascist thug, because that is what they are. They dehumanise themselves by their beliefs and actions and by happily dehumanising others, the ones with different colour skin.

I don’t want him to placate anyone. I want a strong government that will come down hard on violent law breakers. He’s read the room for anyone who believes in law and order.

Welcome to MN.

Like a few people on here, I have seen many riots come and co. This spate will die out, just as the others have done. Then we repair and move forward.

I can't help feeling that will disappoint some posters, especially newer members of MN.

I am feeling now this thread highlights why there is such a problem, and why it is likely to be long term.

Without the ability to listen and understand, and agree as a country on things like the future of the NHS, immigration, social care and other major issues that are looming - without cross party consensus on these really important issues - we are screwed.

They continue to be used as political footballs kicked around every few years and no single party will actually do anything to change this country fundamentally for the better or to get the consent of the people to make some very big changes, that are desperately needed now.

It is very depressing.

There is a solution, but too many are happy with the festering division on either side and aren't willing to give an inch.

Well, as a woman I’m shitting myself that labour are in charge. Fuck knows how you feel if you’re Jewish

No up to date figures on finance then.

And pray tell, what is this solution you speak of?

And coke, let’s be honest here

Almost as lazy as refusing to state what the core issue is despite being asked umpteen times.

Do you genuinely think those sorts of questions haven't been asked? I remember in the lead up to brexit it being explained repeatedly that Britian didn't need to leave the EU to take back control of its borders because it all ready had control, right down to the specific clauses that the government was refusing to implement, but it made no difference. You talk about having open and meaningful dialogue but for that to work those on the right are going to have to accept that migrants aren't to blame for everything.

I think this thread highlights that we won't get anywhere while there are people who are happy to excuse and legitimise violent, racially motivated riots and blame everyone but the actual instigators for provoking them.

Yes I think Tony Blair caused a lot of the problems in the first place.

You and the 51% of the population are an irrelevance and yes the Jewish friends we have are selling up in London in their droves.

This is not going to be a happy place for the next four years....and Starmer's speech was pretty much the last straw. He seemingly has no interest in governing the country in its entirety.

@Hummingbird75 I agree with your posts!

I can see how much you are being piled upon by numerous posters for having a viewpoint …which is dreadful but has become par for the course on many, many threads on here !!

Starmer with his speech yesterday did nothing to calm the situation he couldn’t have stirred up more trouble if he tried…he is not addressing the reason for these problems and it’s not going to go away…there are a large swathe of people unhappy this has been a long time coming…

And now the head of the police is involved in violence and thuggery.

Is he now going to feel the full force of the law? 😂

https://news.sky.com/video/metropolitan-police-commissioner-sir-mark-rowley-grabs-sky-journalists-mic-and-throws-it-aside-13191295

Here you go, since your Google appears to be broken.

https://www.rescue.org/sites/default/files/2024-05/FY23%20Auditd%20Financial%20Statment.pdf

It’s funny how the same people who were so vocal about brexit loved to shout about a majority vote, a small marginal majority, but now that a very small percentage of people are attacking people, buildings and businesses we must apparently sit down and listen to them because their relatively unpopular view deserves a large platform.

Are you missing that there was just a general election? The ideals of these extremists are not in line with the ideals of the rest of the country! They don’t get to hold the political sphere to ransom just because they decide to petrol bomb the shop of a brown person, they should be in prison. They aren’t some fucking freedom fighter that deserves a platform.

Yeah.

The far right don't listen, is the problem. There is nothing one could say, other than enthusiastically agreeing with them about their toxic views.

Well said 👏

We have seen black lives matter riots in London, did we say to them you have no right to speak, you have no right to share your experience?

No we certainly did not.

We understood why they were rioting.
They needed to be heard.

This is no different to me.

yes because moving a microphone is the same as burning down a library. got it.

Labour did not win because they are so fabulous and everyone agrees with their 'values' they won purely on a protest vote!

Oh so you condone his actions against the free press?