Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

IClaudine · Today 12:01
Concerned citizens.
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The one on the left has done a very good job of making sure he can't be identified, though. These thugs are wily

🤣 Says it all

I think that "following the money" would be an enlightening exercise.

Human misery is a rich source of exploitation for profit and "disaster capitalism" only gives a shit about ideology when it suits their ability to exploit it.

One of the biggest sources of profit in this scenario will be data mining. When the government and tech corporations put their heads together to "deal with this" by ramping up digital surveillance it won't be out of genuine concern it will be for lucrative deals passing public money into corporate pockets and the figures will dwarf the amounts that could be spent on infrastructure helping people and communities which we allegedly can't afford.

And surveillance capitalism is at the mercy of deepfakes and AI and biased algorithms.

Moving forward everything is going to be an even bigger shitshow than it is now. 1984 was not supposed to be blueprint of the future it was meant to be a warning.

If I were Starmer, as a proper Prime Minister I would have grasped the importance of my role, and my role is to bring the country together - first and foremost and not allow a civil war to unfold on my watch.

I would have said something along the lines of understanding why the rioters feel like they do, and that they are understandably concerned about their prospects, the lack of homes, the lack of health care and the lack of resources to lead fulfilling lives and that I will do everything possible to tackle the inequalities. I will be securing the borders and the immigration plan is going to be x, y and z and to ask them to trust me as a new PM I will be making decisions for them as well as for all of the people in this great country.

I would add that I want them to stop attacking mosques and other people, and to tell them I hear their anger but it is misplaced, and that everyone will be cared for in a Labour administration.

Something along those lines.

The total total absence of any plan for immigration is at the heart of this.
The rest of it is just noise.

So what is Labour's/ current government's plan for immigration? Does anyone even know?

You couldn't be more wrong in your "analysis" what a waste of time typing that crap was.

Exactly. People are dragging brown skinned people out of cars and beating them, smashing up buildings, burning down hotels with asylum seekers inside. I think the use of the word "thug" is quite appropriate really.

They're not reduced to causing civil unrest because of not being listened to, they're being whipped up by online racist agitators and going out to cause violence and destruction. These are not valid political protests; they are violent acts of terrorism.

"are reduced to creating civil unrest "

Reduced to dragging taxi drivers out of their cars like this?

Link to video.

Sunderland.

Patriots attacking an Uber driver.

x.com/stancollymore/status/1819440170275381614?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

You are excusing violence under the guise of protest.

The UK is a democracy - we don't appease violent men or teenagers looting Lush.

Same, call them what they are.
Racist thugs is a fairly tame way of describing them, I can think of worse names.

I would have said something along the lines of understanding why the rioters feel like they do, and that they are understandably concerned about their prospects, the lack of homes, the lack of health care and the lack of resources to lead fulfilling lives and that I will do everything possible to tackle the inequalities. I will be securing the borders and the immigration plan is going to be x, y and z and to ask them to trust me as a new PM I will be making decisions for them as well as for all of the people in this great country.

Do you think that would have worked for a group of drunk coked up blokes out for a ruck?

This isn’t ‘use your words’ time. It’s ‘smash up a shop you go to prison’ time.

How are they anything but thugs?

BeachParty
Those people who are burning buildings and looting shops ARE thugs though

I didn't claim they were not thugs - I was correcting the poster who said;
"He didn't actually call anyone thugs by the way."

Unless on some level you know that you're like these thugs a bit yourself and share their views...

No - I'm a middle class NIMBY who avoids thugs and sends her dc to private schools.

They are thugs

I believe Lawrence Fox was privately educated, so was Farage. I wouldn’t be complacent Clav.

It is despicable to attack anyone, and even worse if it is racially aggravated.
Clearly no one in this country condones this violence, and where it has happened, racism.

I see on here, as well as the media, that the whole issue gets conflated under one easy dumbed down title of 'far right thugs' but there is far more to this and the dumbing down and the total lack of effort to try and understand the root issue, at least to hear what they have to say, is only going to pour petrol on to this tinder box.

Huge fractions of this country feel overlooked, ignored and left behind.
Huge fractions of this country fear the future, with no border control and no immigration plan - their lives are going to worsen, their children's futures will be bleak and at the bottom of society with the least resources they may indeed have much to fear with a woke government that shows open contempt for the working classes of this country.

But they’ve had the alternative for 14 years and the Brexit they asked for.

There is no pleasing some people

I believe Keir Starmer and his wife were privately educated as well.

You know Keir Starmer was nothing of the sort, it’s been explained to you numerous times.

Private education doesn’t mean anything. Plenty of racism to be found there too.

This is always what Farage has done and sadly he is very good at this

I feel for too long he has been laughed at and ridiculed (which plays straight into his hands) rather than viewing him for being what he is and that is a dangerously clever manipulator within politics

He has to be responded to with clear straightforward responses we need to have discussions on why there is the rise of the right and how they are now operating and how this is managed. Calling them thugs and sending out the police in force is not enough long term plans, engaging in discussions even if they are filled with hate and anger has to happen before anything will change

Peoples views can be challenged and changed (not everyone's), its not easy but it can be done it is done with intelligence and a degree of interacting and listening not just telling people off and giving them a load of stats or pointing out why they are wrong, no one changes their views in this way

Yeah, being middle class or sending your kids to private school doesn't automatically make you not be a thug, or associating with them. 🙄
Unless you think thugs are just the unwashed working class types who send their kids to the "rough" schools.
Have a if so.

You know as well as I do that it has taken that entire time (10 years more or less) to get the legislation through the courts. It was blocked at every point.

Do you suppose these people missed that?

Where is the current government's replacement policy for immigration?

No one has answered that yet....

It actually defies belief that people are trying to argue looters and those who set a police station on fire are not thugs. Yes those areas may have valid concerns around housing, jobs, access to healthcare, schooling etc which are complex problems which require some careful consideration as to the causes (rather than jumping straight to the migrants being the issue with no evidence). However, the way to get support for that is never to riot, loot and destroy, and the fact that some people are trying to justify those actions is shocking.

What legislation was that?

@Hummingbird75 yes because there is no work for the working class. Just retail and hospitality jobs. We have lost national cohesion and any sense of everyone contributing, when we lost industrial labour opportunities. What future is there for a badly educated rather dim bloke? There isn't one.

You know Clav will never acknowledge something that doesn’t fit their narrative.