Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

This is a brilliant post.

@Caththegreat and I've got to be honest, sometimes when I see Muslim families of 5 kids walk down the street I am concerned.The attitude of Muslim women I have worked with towards single or childfree people is often discriminatory and I sensed they were more interested in family than community

Clearly lots of people feel attacked or affronted by their own prejudice, it can be hard to come to terms with. But you need to accept that if walking on the street past a Muslim family with 5 children makes you feel concerned then it’s xenophobia at best and racism at worse, not least because you can’t actually tell if someone is Muslim by looking at them. Thats the same as assuming anyone white is Christian.

I think you would also be hard pressed to find a white British person who cared more about community than family. Bizarre outlook really.

How has he done this?

Say what he has said and done.

Agreed. Any groups of men make me nervous, no matter their skin colour.

I'm a black woman from immigrant grandparents who votes Labour and deeply cannot stand Farage. I feel like Starmer needs to be visiting the reform towns and being transparent about how he is going to deal with their issues. I live very near one of them, and they have quite literally been forgotten. I don't even think half of the people who voted reform did it due to immigration, and half the rioters probably didn't even vote at all and just want a fight. I think they voted Reform because they want SOMEONE to do SOMETHING, and Labour and Conservative have historically done nothing. Farage has promised them the world so they've gone 'fuck it' and voted as he's the only one sadly they can relate to. I hate the guy but sadly don't think he's going away any time soon unless Kier proves he can speak to and work in favour of the masses, including those living in Ashfield, Great Yarmouth, Boston/Skegness, Clacton and Basildon.

@Leniriefenstahl

If you say so

What's the link between a genuine concern over immigration and attacking mosques and Muslims?

I am worried if this is what he said. I remember the lies and hate he said about my country which name he used in many of his Brexit speeches. We are a small country and there are very few of us here and we are absolutely lovely, hardworking calm people who don't take benefits ( unless of course). It is the Roma gibsies they have taken in the thousands and housed.

But after what happened with their case recently , more and more ethnicities will feel ok rioting against English law instead abiding by it, if they feel racial hatred is incited. I absolutely love England, and St George flag and everything but why racial hatred and a promise for some sort of legalised skin head movement of unsatisfied ( with what?) underclass white men is regarded as ok.....

If "points of entry" were a factor why weren't the riots concentrated there?

Were there riots in Dover?

Forgot that the boats often landed over in Merseyside didn't we?

Please, for the love of God, will one of you putting this view forward explain where people are being silenced?

Are those with right wing views stopped from taking part in the democratic process in this country? Are they banned from the press? Are they prevented from expressing themselves on social media? No, so where are they being silenced?

Not being able to defend their views or being challenged on them isn't being silenced.

"Indigenous population" 🙄
Are you talking about the picts or the celts? 🙄🙄🙄

I can never see enough of that GIF.

I agree. But give the man a chance. He’s been in a month. It’s only good for extremists if there is not a robust response to these riots. This is their high point and look at all the special pleading.

I hope these places get the investment and repair they need. The rioters can be in prison. We wouldn’t tell children they can get what they want by violence; we would tell them no. These are adults who don’t write racial laws for our country.

Please, for the love of God, will one of you putting this view forward explain where people are being silenced?

On MN, it is the characteristic whine of the right wing that they are being silenced.

I wish.

Anti-maskers/antivaxxers on MN used to piss and moan endlessly about the same during the lockdowns, never quite getting the irony of the fact that they never STFU.

I haven't missed it.

And those thugs should feel the full force of the law too.

Like all the thugs did in 2011 regardless of their background.

There is no place for this violent thuggery in any civilised country. Whoever is perpetrating it.

This wasn't about the legalities of British living in Spain - but how they are immigrants in Spain, no different to immigrants in other countries

I was really proud of Cardiff actually. There was a far right demo planned but counter-protesters turned out to demonstrate peace, solidarity and diversity.

Yes South Wales has its problems, there were bad riots in Ely last summer but that was moreso because Ely doesn't trust the police

Is that to me or Eastern Standard?

I think you meant it to ES, but if to me, I am not sure what you are trying to say?

I completely agree, and wasn't implying that he should have done this already. I just hope he does it, and does it well in the coming months and years.

I was proud too.

Agree about Ely. Also, look at the valleys, there is a lot of poverty there with many people feeling left behind and sometimes there is trouble, but they haven't gone on the rampage.

It's quite useful just now
I feel like I want to make a trend chart for the far right "phrases du jour" - what's going up, what's going down

"Indigenous people" would be on there. I find it so offensive and proper DARVO to try to equate white British people in the UK and the very fringe "reasonable concerns" to the experiences of Native Americans and Aboriginal people.

Warsan Shite says it better than I can:

no one leaves home unless
home is the mouth of a shark
you only run for the border
when you see the whole city running as well

your neighbors running faster than you
breath bloody in their throats
the boy you went to school with
who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory
is holding a gun bigger than his body
you only leave home
when home won't let you stay.

no one leaves home unless home chases you
fire under feet
hot blood in your belly
it's not something you ever thought of doing
until the blade burnt threats into
your neck
and even then you carried the anthem under
your breath
only tearing up your passport in an airport toilets
sobbing as each mouthful of paper
made it clear that you wouldn't be going back.

you have to understand,
that no one puts their children in a boat
unless the water is safer than the land
no one burns their palms
under trains
beneath carriages
no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck
feeding on newspaper unless the miles travelled
means something more than journey.
no one crawls under fences
no one wants to be beaten
pitied

no one chooses refugee camps
or strip searches where your
body is left aching
or prison,
because prison is safer
than a city of fire
and one prison guard
in the night
is better than a truckload
of men who look like your father
no one could take it
no one could stomach it
no one skin would be tough enough

Farage is using people’s desperation and fear to line his own pockets. The people who follow him mostly aren’t bad or stupid- they’ve been let down by the wealthy industrialists who put a quick profit over the well being of communities. What is maddening is that people who support Farage cannot see that he is the same as those who gutted their communities of jobs and opportunities. These things were actively stolen by rich investors (in some case by Farage himself when he was an investment banker).

My message to them would be: he doesn’t care about your family, your well being or your life. He only care about making himself powerful, just like Trump. Look after yourself and your community by rejecting him.

This. Have to agree totally.