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Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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Safi7 · 05/08/2024 00:31

So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

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Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 10:07

Totallybannanas · 05/08/2024 10:04

Keir has ignited the flames by not acknowledging the mood and concerns of the country. By calling these people right wing thugs. There are people who are not violently protesting, but do have concerns and are anxious. They are worried about their safety, housing, schools and healthcare. This is why people voted to leave the EU, why Reform is rising in popularity.

They are right wing thugs. They are rioting, that is thug behaviour.

Mood and concerns of SOME of the country.

Many of us are worried about safety, housing schools and healthcare but it's not all down to immigration. It's down to successive austerity measures crippling our communities and resources. Unfortunately Reform need a base of under educated, under developed people who they can give an enemy to.

Notonthestairs · 05/08/2024 10:08

"By calling these people right wing thugs. "

Which people? The ones dragging taxi drivers out of cars? Or the ones burning libraries.

He didn't actually call anyone thugs by the way.

"This is what Starmer actually said after Southport: "A response both to the immediate challenge. Which is clearly driven by far-right hatred. But also - all violent disorder that flares up. Whatever the apparent cause or motivation – we make no distinction. Crime is crime".

x.com/dpjhodges/status/1820015281734848872?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

However I'm happy to call violent people thugs.

BeachParty · 05/08/2024 10:08

@Caththegreat

i've got to be honest, sometimes when I see Muslim families of 5 kids walk down the street I am concerned
Why?
Genuinely baffled why you'd be concerned /intimidated by a family just walking down the street minding their own business?!

echt · 05/08/2024 10:08

Totallybannanas · 05/08/2024 10:04

Keir has ignited the flames by not acknowledging the mood and concerns of the country. By calling these people right wing thugs. There are people who are not violently protesting, but do have concerns and are anxious. They are worried about their safety, housing, schools and healthcare. This is why people voted to leave the EU, why Reform is rising in popularity.

So the riots represent a but silently worried population?

How very convenient.

kikisparks · 05/08/2024 10:08

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Well are you in favour of a day one right to work for asylum seekers then? If not, you don’t really care about those who came here, many after fleeing violence and persecution, “lounging about”, you just want to spread hateful rhetoric. I listened to the account of an asylum seeking girl aged just 17 who was in one of the hotels targeted by thugs, how frightening that must have been after fleeing violence and war. The people who support violence towards her and other migrants, simply for the crime of being in the UK whilst not British (or more particularly, not white, as I haven’t seen any violence by these thugs towards Ukrainians), are disgusting.

Wideskye · 05/08/2024 10:09

suburberphobe · 05/08/2024 00:48

He's the new Enoch Powell.

Utterly abhorrent, both of them.

More like Oswald Mosley

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 10:09

BeachParty · 05/08/2024 10:08

@Caththegreat

i've got to be honest, sometimes when I see Muslim families of 5 kids walk down the street I am concerned
Why?
Genuinely baffled why you'd be concerned /intimidated by a family just walking down the street minding their own business?!

Edited

It's a very strange view to take in isolation.

A group of men, understandable. A family with their kids?

bombastix · 05/08/2024 10:10

It’s simple. You want the white English driver test or you want a democratic society.

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 10:10

Totallybannanas · 05/08/2024 10:04

Keir has ignited the flames by not acknowledging the mood and concerns of the country. By calling these people right wing thugs. There are people who are not violently protesting, but do have concerns and are anxious. They are worried about their safety, housing, schools and healthcare. This is why people voted to leave the EU, why Reform is rising in popularity.

Given that less than a month ago Stamer and the Labour party won a large majority in the General Election, I would suggest that he is very much in tune with the mood and concerns of the country.

That the mood and concerns of the country are not the same as the right wing thugs who have been rioting is a different matter.

Did you stand in the election? How did you get on?

SnapdragonToadflax · 05/08/2024 10:10

Farage is the most dangerous person in this country today. He is utterly, utterly vile, I hate him and I do not understand why anyone listens to a word he says. He's a used car salesman selling you racism.

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2024 10:10

Totallybannanas · 05/08/2024 10:04

Keir has ignited the flames by not acknowledging the mood and concerns of the country. By calling these people right wing thugs. There are people who are not violently protesting, but do have concerns and are anxious. They are worried about their safety, housing, schools and healthcare. This is why people voted to leave the EU, why Reform is rising in popularity.

No, a small proportion of people (less than 16%) voted for Reform, just three weeks ago. They are not 'rising in popularity.' Quite the contrary - what the riots clearly are are that small proportion of right wing thugs throwing their toys out of the pram because the country has clearly moved back towards the left again. They're not 'afraid for their children' - they're quite happy to set other people's kids on fire. They don't care about brown kids dying. They're just old-fashioned racists.

I live in a multi-cultural working class town with a large Muslim population and I simply don't recognise the picture of Britain being painted by the usual bunch of agitators (including that prick Farage) as somewhere that white people are oppressed by dark skinned people, as it's just not true.

IClaudine · 05/08/2024 10:11

Totallybannanas · 05/08/2024 10:04

Keir has ignited the flames by not acknowledging the mood and concerns of the country. By calling these people right wing thugs. There are people who are not violently protesting, but do have concerns and are anxious. They are worried about their safety, housing, schools and healthcare. This is why people voted to leave the EU, why Reform is rising in popularity.

Why are the people of Wales and Scotland not rioting?

BeachParty · 05/08/2024 10:11

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 10:09

It's a very strange view to take in isolation.

A group of men, understandable. A family with their kids?

Yeah, I can kind of get the concern if you saw a gang of men (even though I can't really get that the colour of their skin has anything to do with anything)
A woman out with her kids though?
What exactly is the problem there? 😕

Owlbookend · 05/08/2024 10:11

Teentaxidriver · 05/08/2024 09:46

This. Kerr represents the metropolitan elite disconnected from average British people. You can’t stop Farrage and by ignoring him, you are ignoring and inflaming the views of millions of voters.

Although this is a complete side issue & largely irrelevant i cant help but comment on this as it illustrates how people spin their own narratives.
Keir Starmer comes from a fairly 'average' background - the oft quoted son of a toolmaker who attended a grammar school that converted to fee paying in his final years.
Nigel Farage comes from a wealthy background & i believe attended Dulwich college a public school in London.
Why the former is cast as 'the metropolitan elite' and the later a man of the people us lost on me.

echt · 05/08/2024 10:12

i've got to be honest, sometimes when I see Muslim families of 5 kids walk down the street I am concerned

Tell us what bit gets to you. Go on.

Grmumpy · 05/08/2024 10:12

Hummingbird I agree with you. There is far too much ‘I am right and you are wrong’ in political debate…often implying I am intelligent and you are stupid. I wanted to remain in the eu but so much of the debate was like that and I think that helped swing the vote. It is dangerous try to silence people and not listen to them, to group someone concerned about the level of immigration in their community with the extreme right wing. In doing that you help the extreme right wing to stir up dangerous levels of hatred.

BeachParty · 05/08/2024 10:13

Quite the contrary - what the riots clearly are are that small proportion of right wing thugs throwing their toys out of the pram because the country has clearly moved back towards the left again

Yes, just seems like one big tantrum

anythinginapinch · 05/08/2024 10:13

"The people who feel informed and overlooked in this country" appear to be white men between 15 and 50 who enjoy a punch up. Is that correct? Just so I know the demographic.

Women struggling and actually BEING overlooked don't appear to turn to rage violence and hatred.

These are not PEOPLE but MEN causing violence yet again. I'm sick of them

SnapdragonToadflax · 05/08/2024 10:13

Oh and also - there's increasing evidence this is all coming from Russia. Putin wants to destabilise the West, so he's using useful idiots like the rioters to do it. Cambridge Analytica are linked to the tweets that instigated the weekend riots.

People wouldn't be concerned if they weren't constantly being told there's a problem. We've been a multicultural country for many years, and mostly rub along together just fine.

Grmumpy · 05/08/2024 10:14

Echt would you really consider the opinion of the person who said she or he gets concerned about a large Muslim family or do you already have your reply ready. Why do you think she is concerned?

EasternStandard · 05/08/2024 10:14

IClaudine · 05/08/2024 10:11

Why are the people of Wales and Scotland not rioting?

Coastlines not an entry point could be a factor

echt · 05/08/2024 10:16

Grmumpy · 05/08/2024 10:14

Echt would you really consider the opinion of the person who said she or he gets concerned about a large Muslim family or do you already have your reply ready. Why do you think she is concerned?

They said it. I'm asking for clarification.

bombastix · 05/08/2024 10:16

Or they aren’t white English nationalists?

ForYouManImADoomBoy · 05/08/2024 10:16

echt · 05/08/2024 10:12

i've got to be honest, sometimes when I see Muslim families of 5 kids walk down the street I am concerned

Tell us what bit gets to you. Go on.

i wonder if theyd be afraid of us and my mum? she had six kids who would walk about with her BUT we are white so i dunno, maybe we wouldnt have scared her?

askmenow · 05/08/2024 10:18

HornyHornersPinger · 05/08/2024 10:05

Hummingbird, you said what I feel. I just can't write it so eloquently...

Thank you. I feel such anger that Starmer dismisses peoples genuine concerns.

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