Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

Farage is deliberately inflaming and stoking up division and fear because that’s his route to power .

hahahah there was never any danger of you being my intellect, but you clearly want to be my jester.

Exactly this. Starmers response has been incendiary. People have very valid concerns. This shows very little understanding of the people across the country.

Did he call the Muslims attacking the police in Leeds “thugs”? How many filming themselves attacking the police there have been arrested and fast tracked through the criminal justice system?

Rotherham, was that not a massive cover up for fear of speaking up and being accused as a racist?

Quite the opposite actually.

But don’t let a silly little thing like facts get in the way.

💋 i may frame that users comment, it's tickled me that much,

They never do

@BeethovenNinth

Yes there is no excuse for the violence and riots. But the debate is being shut down. Even the police commissioner that said we need to address the root cause has been forced to back down. It is not “far right” nor racist to need a robust discussion on unfettered immigration from countries with a different culture to ours.

This. People are aware they are being ignored and shut down. Many people have concerns over immigration levels and this doesn’t mean they are racist. Why can’t we have an open debate about immigration without being controlled or branded fascists?

It’s right that we continue to support those who are genuinely seeking asylum but as everyone knows many who come here are economic migrants, and many of those that are fleeing dangerous situations at home don’t stop at the first safe country they come to - which certainly isn’t Britain. The riots we’re seeing are a symptom of a deeper unease and conversations need be be allowed to happen.

Same.
Call it what it is.
Call them out and say they'll get the full force of the law.
Not pander to them and try and appease them.

Depends which facts you look at . The Ministry of Justice says the prosecutions went down, the CPS that they went up.

And Spain can make the choice to not allow as many ex pats to retire there if that doesn't work for them. And Spain charges the UK for the hospital care they provide to British citizens under a reciprocal agreement.

But he didn't call everyone who's concerned with immigration thugs, he called the people rioting, burning and looting thugs, how else would you describe them?

Out of interest can you tell us a 'very valid concern' people have that hasn't been addressed?

Can we agree that if we are to have an open an honest discussion about migration, then it needs to be done on the basis of facts?

Facts like the vast majority of asylum seekers are granted leave to remain in the UK, because they aren't in fact economic migrants.

Let’s face it, the people rioting are the Tory-brexit party- reform swing voters, lower working class people who are dense enough to vote for austerity and then wonder why they are worse off 14 years later.

Yes well we know that MN is populated by people chasing the latest Pilage handbags with a completely unrealistic perspective on the lives of populations north of the Watford Gap!
Working people who keep your country ticking over, go out to their workplace day by day, who are barely making ends meet. Who don't sit on their backsides WFH or "Influencing" or spouting forth about the best places to holiday or where to relocate etc etc...

You do realise that working class people are on here as well, right?! We're not all designer handbag influencers or whatever it is you're on about.
Working class people can still want to call this shit out and want to stand up to racism.

Yes simple economics, the large aging population is actually a huge issue in most countries and with dropping birth numbers the replacement rate is low causing a huge imbalance in the work force.

Countries don't want to be full of retired people.

I agree.one should not have to be lumped with Farage and Robinson to have doubts about aspects of immigration in a small country.I also do not feel that people integrate as much as people say and I've got to be honest, sometimes when I see Muslim families of 5 kids walk down the street I am concerned.The attitude of Muslim women I have worked with towards single or childfree people is often discriminatory and I sensed they were more interested in family than community.i despise most religions because they usually treat women badly and also those who don't fit in.My cousin in her Christian group was shunned once divorced.We need to have honest discussion about the ups killing of the white working class to catch up with Asian and other groups in terms of tech jobs.Mina Smallman the womsn whose daughters were murdered and then abused by the Met made it her business when she taught ethnic minority children with SEN to include the white working class kids too.

Legal and controlled migration has and still can benefit this country, I am one such person working for many years in the NHS.
But undocumented males are NOT welcome here.

Do you really feel that none us are north of the watford gap?

I'm working class born and bred, council estate. I go to work everyday and am deeply affected by the COL crisis. No holiday for me or relocating.

But again, if they are 'illegals' then they aren't driving down the wages. And even if they were, it's not the person taking the job whose fault that is but the business pushing for it. I'm worried about my children playing outside for many reasons including 'men' like those rioting,

For all you claim that we don't listen to you, it shows you don't listen to any of us.

As a brown English person, the idea that I could be stopped by thugs when in my car and checked if I'm white before being allowed to proceed, is horrific.

Let's not pussyfot around, that sort of behaviour is street law not state law. It's akin to the pogroms carried out on Jewish people in 1930s Berlin.

Likewise torching a Mosque, a foodbank, a library - Krystallnacht.

I'm not to worried about these thugs because they will be dealt with. Kier Starmer was DPP when the 2011 riots happened and he had courts sitting 24 hours a day to process the thugs involved. He's a man firmly on the side of law and order and he won't pander to thuggery.

However if this violence continues, we should definitely bring the army in, as the Irish dd when they had their race riots in Dublin last year. A few tnks on the streets and these thugs will soon dissipate.

We need to send a strong visible message that we Brits don't tolerate street violence and those who commit it will feel the full fist of the State.

I am saddened by the fact that we seem to be becoming an increasingly sectarian society. Islamaphobia and antisemitism are undoubtedly on the rise. I am very thankful that we have FTPT in this country so the far right can't get more political power as they have done in Sweden, Norway, Germany, France, Italy etc etc

I used to complain about FPTP and say PR would be more democratic but now I can see how wise our forefathers were in instituting FTPT.

Keir has ignited the flames by not acknowledging the mood and concerns of the country. By calling these people right wing thugs. There are people who are not violently protesting, but do have concerns and are anxious. They are worried about their safety, housing, schools and healthcare. This is why people voted to leave the EU, why Reform is rising in popularity.

Workers and reproducers are a far better option than old retired people who will use the hospitals and resources but not pay taxes, not reproduce

OAPs pay tax on income just the same as those in work.

Sorry they are unable to reproduce, but seeing as you seem to think it's so important, shouldn't you be getting on the case of those who choose not to have children or don't have enough, or can't? Thought not.

Hummingbird, you said what I feel. I just can't write it so eloquently...

Yes it doesn't tend to affect the politicians

Perhaps it needs stopping so we can sort out who is here already