Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

a disinformation expert on a podcast I listened to pointed out that farage has been all over social media, the press and tv but not in Parliament were he is elected to actually bring change to whatever “cause” he believes in. He’s a snake oil salesman’s whose only in it for himself

In answer to the original question, at least four years given his being an MP and leader/dictator of a party represented in Westminster.

Agreed, i felt reassured that at least my government could finally call it for what it really is: Far Right Thuggery.

And I won't be your intellect for you. Cheerio.

Are you referring to resources like the million empty homes in the UK?

Is it possible that there are enough resources, they are just hugely unequally distributed?

I think it’s to try to stop the riots. He needs to as the damage is a lot. There was a plea from a business owner this morning, plus insurance may not cover it

Ah yes Kier Starmer should’ve sympathised with racists wtf????Told them he understand them 😂

They are thugs so he described them as that.

No, prosecutions for rape are currently at an all time low to the point whereby it’s essentially been decriminalised. One of Labour’s election manifesto pledges is to increase court provision to work through the backlog of cases.

Stephen struggles with English, I doubt he can speak Spanish

I actually think this shit show will decrease their numbers.

They have got big headed thinking they got lots of votes and are 'winning' so have crawled out of their shells. Nazis proudly walking the streets with tattoos and signs but most people who voted reform didn't vote for Nazi uprising to come smash up their towns.

From our local facebook I was shocked how many voted for reform but they mostly did it because they didn't want to vote Conservative (northern classic Labour area) and the Labour candidate was a a random plant from London and really hated by many locals while the Reform candidate was a local who lived here and knew the area and its 'issues' apparently.

I think next election they will find their numbers way down again as all the people who aren't 'rioting right wingers' are going to realize their mistake and distance themselves from it again.

You couldn’t if you tried.

I also suspect that, as a result of the riots this week and Farage's response to them that 14% will have dwindled.

I hope he does keep reminding us. Then perhaps it will sink in that we have a PM with a very relevant career behind him, in charge.

Of course he totally believes it haha, he was DPP for over 5 years!

The word to describe Farage's relationship with Reform is owner. He is the owner of Reform Ltd.

Why is it always 'the left' that needs to listen, to understand and to change, why is it never expected of the right?

There seems to exist a very misplaced victim mentally on the right. "Oh we're not racist, xenophobic, bigoted, etc. No, we're just poor, misunderstood patriots who need someone to listen to why we're so angry and address the root cause".

But here is no "root cause" to address, these rioters are just bitter and angry about life full-stop.There's been a huge amount of engagement on the issue, it's been explained ad nauseum why immigration isn't the sole, or even main, reason they can't get a doctors appointment or a house, but the right don't want to listen to reason or evidence. They just want to blame someone, anyone, everyone but themselves.

If you magically removed all migrants from the country these thugs wouldn't suddenly be happy, productive, community-minded individuals, they'd just redirect their anger to the next scapegoat, be that the poor, the disabled, the Muslim or Jew, or whoever next is on the list of blame.

The left haven't been in power for more than 14 years (some would argue even longer given than that given Blair et al weren't really on the left) so why is it their fault the right 'aren't being listened to'?

The right claim they're frustrated about the impact of migration yet repeatedly voted for a party that constantly increased it during their time in power.

They claim they're fed up of not being heard but repeatedly voted for a party that showed nothing but contempt for the average person on the street.

They claim they're angry at being left behind but consistently elected a party that cut public services and investment in favour of lining their own back pockets.

Now, they're putting their faith in a man who's a proven liar and grifter. Maybe instead of blaming everything on the left, the right should look at their own actions and role in their unhappiness.

So every asylum seeker should stop in France. Unless we decide we want them.

You advocate making the problem worse I'm another country as a way to improve international relations?

All those saying Starmer should say "we are listening" "what do you want" to solve the issue.

Should we say the same to Putin? Allow him to take some of Ukraine? Or all of it if he wants. Do you honestly think that won't embolden him to then storm another country? After all - it's the easiest way to get what he sees as a legitimate aim done.

We cannot give into violence. That doesn't mean we don't listen. But we don't allow attempted murder as a way to legitimate aims. We just can't.

And my experience of 15 years working with asylum seekers suggests that many women are not being allowed to integrate effectively. And it's them I am concerned about, they are often not able to seek the support they need because of this. Stuck in abusive relationships because they cannot get a job due to not speaking English, fearful of condemnation by their commuinity if they speak out.

Comparing this to English people retiring to Spain is not relevant. Those retiring are financially independent, dont need to work. And they can seek help as most people speak English. That doesn't mean they shouldn't make the effort to learn Spanish, of course they should, and we as Brits are terrible at expecting people abroad to speak English. But not knowing Spanish doesn't leave women vunerable there, in the same way that women not knowing English leaves women vunerable here.

This. Kerr represents the metropolitan elite disconnected from average British people. You can’t stop Farrage and by ignoring him, you are ignoring and inflaming the views of millions of voters.

What do you suggest then?

If you magically removed all migrants from the country these thugs wouldn't suddenly be happy, productive, community-minded individuals, they'd just redirect their anger to the next scapegoat, be that the poor, the disabled, the Muslim or Jew, or whoever next is on the list of blame.

It used to be feckless single mothers, who went to the top of the list for housing and only had babies to get housing and benefits - they were the cause of all problems in the 1980s and 1990s. The Daily Fail was forever reporting not he useless single mothers wo were the root of all evil

Completely agree - his video made me sick. He's a very dangerous man. I genuinely don't know how he can see what's happening to black and Asian people and continue to incite it. How does he sleep at night?

People who criticise Starmer's speech after the first riots.
Did you listen to Starmer not Farage's comments?

https://x.com/keirstarmer/status/1819026004909957348?s=61&t=708dEnn_EkpuN3JVBO9mR8A
He did say he will not allow understandable fear to curdle into division and hate. I think this acknowledges there is a problem but his speech was mainly addressing the violence that needs to be stopped.
He also said it's not protest, it's not legitimate it's crime and disorder.

Tommy Robinson claims he's calling everyone far right thugs. But if you listen to his words he's referring to people causing the violence, looting and fire and giving nazi salutes. Hardly everyone.

x.com/trobinsonnewera/status/1820128657152827695?s=61&t=708dEn_EkpuN3JVBO9mR8A
As for Farage threatening that what we've seen so far is nothing-he steps to the brink of incitement to more violence but I'm sure has legal advice on how far he can go.
Starmer is addressing the violence. Do you really think looting Lush and setting fire to libraries is protest rather than crime?
The problems that caused the rioting, if you believe they are more than opportunistic theft, are something that can't be solve overnight but have been exacerbated over the last 14 years. It will take more than a month as PM to solve.

How very dare you ! I distinctly heard him say ' Dos cervesas por favor' once.

Sorry I’ve come back and it’s 300+ posts now, but just picking up on the last few comments eg -

“But Farage has openly condemned the violence. ”

Do you you really not see how this vile individual operates? He stays just on the acceptable side of the line in public discourse - JUST. So he has to trot out the standard lines they are all required to -eg. ‘We cannot condone violence..,,, - but then, in the very next breath he is deliberately inciting MORE violence by ominously stating there is surely much worse to come. who is that some aimed at, do you think?

Then he does what he always does - makes a deliberate and unfounded insinuation - in this case “What are the police hiding… oh I can’t know for sure, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re concealing the truth that all this is orchestrated by Islamic terrorists ..,,”

This is what he does EVERY time. He knows exactly who he is appealing to and what he is inciting. He appeals to the worst underbelly of society in a calculated, cynical way that only they are stupid enough not to see through. He is an utter disgrace to the U.K. He goes on about how Britain ‘won the war’ but the joke of it is, he is forming a party Hitler would approve of. If Hitler was alive today, he would be an ally of Farage and vice versa. Hitler used the same tactics in his early days.

Comparing this to English people retiring to Spain is not relevant. Those retiring are financially independent, dont need to work.

They are not of as much economic use as a young workers. Workers and reproducers are a far better option than old retired people who will use the hospitals and resources but not pay taxes, not reproduce. Yes they will spend but that is limited against what they will take