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Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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Safi7 · 05/08/2024 00:31

So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

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Izzymoon · 05/08/2024 09:22

Midnightalready · 05/08/2024 09:17

It's interesting that most people have seen that execrable incident where some thugs were vetting car drivers, and right condemning it. And yet no one is condemning the scenes of huge gangs of Asian men, many with weapons, attacking protestors. In Bolton they had to be stopped by police horses. This is the BBC report on it:

https://twitter.com/AndyJackMorris/status/1820144393052909745

This Sky news report accidentally captured some of the ones with weapons:

twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1820147234949742979

How many people are actually aware that this was not a one-sided thing, and there were plenty of non-white thugs on the streets too?

Disagree, I think every single person on this thread would condemn it.
I think there’s a slight difference in backdrop though given these protests started with attacking mosques, so I can understand why Muslims felt under attack given that in several places they were quite literally.
I’m not sure why the large group of while men felt under threat by the mosques in Southport in that first place. However I don’t agree with it counter violence, and even counter protests in general. I think this sort of thing shouldn’t be pandered to in the first place.

BustingBaoBun · 05/08/2024 09:23

oddandelsewhere · 05/08/2024 09:19

@Alwaystired94 Why would I think it's a gotcha.? I think it's hysterical that he always mentions it. Many, many MPs previously held responsible jobs. They are just secure enough not to have to keep reminding people.

Many MP's might've done. Shame Johnson didn't... sacked from every job he's ever held.

Being the Director of Public Prosecutions is very relevant to being PM. Being a bigoted newspaper columnist isn't.

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 09:24

WormBum · 05/08/2024 09:21

The rioters are opportunists in this, but they are taking advantage of a political situation that’s been simmering for years. This is a societal problem, not an individual one, so it would be dangerous to ignore why this is happening.

Male violence is (and always has been) the problem - but why has this never been addressed over the whole time it’s been there?

Immigration has not been dealt with well, opportunists like Farage have been able to swoop in and gain supporters. Why? How? In the political scene this needs to be addressed.

Agreed, this is a big MALE violence issue.

Because they've seen men like Trump or Boris leading countries with their attitudes towards women. They see 'men' like Andrew Tate online and hear what he has to say on women. They are radicalised and it's more often than not a rabbit hole to other far right ideals.

BeachParty · 05/08/2024 09:24

Sunshineonararainydayyy · 05/08/2024 09:12

Shame on anyone here who is defending these mindless, reckless acts of violence & hatred as patriotic concerns. It’s thuggery, no two ways about it.

The video today of ‘protestors’ checking whether people were white driving cars is absolutely sickening. Racism on our streets is not defensible. Disregard for property and attacking the police.

I can’t fathom how anyone condones it.

The video today of ‘protestors’ checking whether people were white driving cars is absolutely sickening

WTAF Sad Angry

IClaudine · 05/08/2024 09:25

lollipoprainbow · 05/08/2024 09:14

@InsensibleMe not ashamed no because I'm not racist. The slightest hint of being concerned about immigration and the race card comes out.

Tbh, the phrase "the race card comes out" is not usually used by non-racist folk.

Something to ponder.

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 09:25

BustingBaoBun · 05/08/2024 09:23

Many MP's might've done. Shame Johnson didn't... sacked from every job he's ever held.

Being the Director of Public Prosecutions is very relevant to being PM. Being a bigoted newspaper columnist isn't.

But but but he's only saying what those of us have been told to think!!!!! wake up sheeple blah blah

itsgettingweird · 05/08/2024 09:26

lollipoprainbow · 05/08/2024 07:36

Kier Starmer is telling the majority of people what they want to hear,

Wrong

Listen to the people who live in these cities being destroyed by the riots.

They are the voices of the people suffering the consequences.

And they want the perpetrators to feel the full force of the law. They don't want this.

oddandelsewhere · 05/08/2024 09:26

I know he was a toolmaker. I know Starmer was once a civil servant. We've all been told ad infinitum. It's time to move on.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 05/08/2024 09:26

Tootyfilou · 05/08/2024 07:39

Wow! Some nasty racist views on this thread. 😡

And also, thank goodness, quite a few clear-headed, thoughtful, insightful comments which I wish I'd made myself.

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 09:26

IClaudine · 05/08/2024 09:25

Tbh, the phrase "the race card comes out" is not usually used by non-racist folk.

Something to ponder.

Much like homophobes using the gay card, misogynists using the female card.

EasternStandard · 05/08/2024 09:26

FayeGreener · 05/08/2024 08:51

Once again for the slow ones at the back.

Farage is not a cause but a symptom. If there weren’t already deep deep problems in our society he wouldn’t be popular.

Believe you me, if you ignore Farage the leader you get after Farage is going to make him look like the Easter Bunny.

Yes to symptom and you may have a point about the rest

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 09:28

oddandelsewhere · 05/08/2024 09:26

I know he was a toolmaker. I know Starmer was once a civil servant. We've all been told ad infinitum. It's time to move on.

Yes, he's explaining how we go from here in regards to justice. His background in prosecutions means he has a keen understanding of our system and what can be done, rather than just sticking a finger in the air and hoping someone else will find a solution.

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2024 09:28

oddandelsewhere · 05/08/2024 09:26

I know he was a toolmaker. I know Starmer was once a civil servant. We've all been told ad infinitum. It's time to move on.

Being DPP during the 2011 riots is highly relevant I’d say. I imagine most people would agree with me.

ExtraOnions · 05/08/2024 09:28

“Not listened to” .. you couldn’t make it up.

If anything, they have been listed to too much. Their views are published in the papers every day, they have thier own TV channel, they have representatives on Question Time (all the time), they have government policy built around their views (Rwanda), and the party in Governent trotting our phrases such as “stop the boats”

They have been listened too way too much .. legitimacy has been given to the view that all of thier problems are caused by immigration, rather then their own poor life decisions.

If it wasn’t immigration, it would be another group to blame.

We need to stand up to Racism, not build govt policy around it

VimtoVimto · 05/08/2024 09:29

BustingBaoBun · 05/08/2024 09:11

If you can't speak the language of a country then you cannot effectively integrate into that country

Those 'immigrants' (also fondly called 'ex pats') in Spain really should take note...

I wonder how fluent Yaxley-Lennon is in Spanish?

BustingBaoBun · 05/08/2024 09:30

oddandelsewhere · 05/08/2024 09:26

I know he was a toolmaker. I know Starmer was once a civil servant. We've all been told ad infinitum. It's time to move on.

Director of Public Prosecutions actually.
During the 2011 riots.
He has experience in this.

Why should he deny it?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2024 09:30

mm81736 · 05/08/2024 08:58

Reform won 14% of the vote , approx 60% of the Conservative share and nearly half the Labour share. They are not a tiny minority.Most people are worried about the environment and yet reform got twice as many votes as the green party.

14% is a pretty small minority. The majority of British people will not ever stoop to support a racist, far right party. As a nation, we are better than that.

Saschka · 05/08/2024 09:30

dottiehens · 05/08/2024 08:27

The left is no innocent in stoking division when it suits their narrative. Which policy was the vote winner from Labour? Yes,VAT taxes for private school education. The amount of mocking comments and hate in those threats were very obvious. Many in private schools are international students and from Asian countries. Some are middle class like GPs that would not longer afford to. Private school parents have been accused of the failure of state school education even when they save the government money. That is a divisive narrative and very wrong.

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Oh dear god, how are you using racist riots as an excuse to have a whinge about VAT on private school fees?

EasternStandard · 05/08/2024 09:31

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 09:28

Yes, he's explaining how we go from here in regards to justice. His background in prosecutions means he has a keen understanding of our system and what can be done, rather than just sticking a finger in the air and hoping someone else will find a solution.

His press conferences have not had the desired effect

He probably has a bit more grace but if the riots keep repeating I don’t think past job will help

Summermightbegreat · 05/08/2024 09:32

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I lives next door to where asylum seekers were living for a couple of years and they definitely weren't 'lounging around'. They were always walking around in small groups and playing football together in a field next door, to pass the time. They were friendly and said hello very politely, in English, when they walked past. A lot of interviews were done with many of them, by independent journalists and they were all very frustrated, and wanted to work, to improve their situations. A lot were professionals, such as doctors. I've never seen any evidence that they were fraudsters and not needing refuge. If they were from a safe country then they'd be sent back. They had to put up with hateful protests outside of their living place with red paint thrown all over the front gates. During COVID they were locked up almost 24 hours per day in shared dormitories with just one twenty minute walk per day permitted, even though the rest of the country was allowed out to go to the supermarket, short walks etc, as much as they wanted. This continued for them, even when a lot of restrictions were lifted. They ended up rioting when people in their dorms were suffering with COVID pre-vaccines and they weren't moved into separate dorms to keep them safe, and so Priti Patel sent all the locals a letter calling them criminals.

IClaudine · 05/08/2024 09:33

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2024 09:30

14% is a pretty small minority. The majority of British people will not ever stoop to support a racist, far right party. As a nation, we are better than that.

Exactly. Reform UK PLC/Brexit Party/UKIP share of the vote has remained consistent and never grown significantly.

Farage's bank balance however...

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2024 09:33

EasternStandard · 05/08/2024 09:31

His press conferences have not had the desired effect

He probably has a bit more grace but if the riots keep repeating I don’t think past job will help

What’s the “desired effect”?

MikeRafone · 05/08/2024 09:35

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Many of them worked for the British in Afghanistan, the issue is they were of benefit to the England and now perhaps not so

oddandelsewhere · 05/08/2024 09:36

I don't think I suggested that he should deny it, just that he really doesn't need to keep reminding us. It's almost as though he can't believe it himself. Didn't prosecutions for rape go down when he was in charge?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2024 09:36

EasternStandard · 05/08/2024 09:31

His press conferences have not had the desired effect

He probably has a bit more grace but if the riots keep repeating I don’t think past job will help

I disagree.

I think the desired effect of his press conferences was to provide assurances to the general public that he wasn't going to pander to extremist thugs and to emphasise that those involved in the violence would feel the full force of the law. I think he succeeded on both counts.

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