Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

I'm hoping to finally be able to drive one day when the COL is less scary.

They only want to save 'our' girls from anyone brown, we're still far game for them. Disgusting. And yeah, seeing women going along with this does feel like such a slap in the face (or a knife in the back).

Man whose dealt with thugs before tells us he knows how to deal with thugs

I'd say that was an advantage, wouldn't you?

@Alwaystired94

Your not listening and haven't read my Point properly

Exactly
Proving my
Point that

"Ordinary people are not being listened too"

The evidence before us from the past week, suggests rather strongly to me that it isn't asylum seekers who are failing to integrate.

If you can't speak the language of a country then you cannot effectively integrate into that country

Those 'immigrants' (also fondly called 'ex pats') in Spain really should take note...

Do we know if Yaxley-Lennon speaks Spanish?

Shame on anyone here who is defending these mindless, reckless acts of violence & hatred as patriotic concerns. It’s thuggery, no two ways about it.

The video today of ‘protestors’ checking whether people were white driving cars is absolutely sickening. Racism on our streets is not defensible. Disregard for property and attacking the police.

I can’t fathom how anyone condones it.

Haha... as if!

I'm an ordinary person. I did read your 'point' it just doesn't have any basis in actual fact without using a talking point of NF or TR.

We can listen when people are able to have discussions that don't turn into riots, not use hatred as a weapon or admit accountability.

Remember the whole "we don't negotiate with terrorists"? Well, we don't listen to domestic terrorists.

Exactly that. There’s no excuse for this whatsoever. None.

No he seems to be firmly in the camp of point and say it louder.

"ONE BEER, BEEEEEEEER"

How come virtually every NMW job up here has many many applicants ? Our local
M and S isn’t taking on Xmas staff this year precisely because it doesn’t need to.
And I’m not sure I’d want any old person working in care.

This. Rioters are engaged in racially motivated violent disorder. It is clear from their actions and words what it is. There is no justification for racism and violent disorder. Anybody justifying these riots needs to think about the fear and destruction they are creating. Think about the people of colour in your community. Think about how this is impacting them. Do you really want to stand with the actions of the rioters? Justify them? Stoke them?
Farage wants to stoke division. He is reugnant.

@InsensibleMe not ashamed no because I'm not racist. The slightest hint of being concerned about immigration and the race card comes out.

The fact that Farage and his Reform cronies or people like Braverman are not openly condemning the violence tells you everything you need to know about their agenda.

But Farage has openly condemned the violence. I don’t think anyone here is justifying the rioters. All violence should be dealt with as Kier Starmer says. But associating right wing politics with rioting is not necessary.

Thank you @mm81736 !

The men (let's not gloss over that fact) who are rioting are making no political point about immigration. They are racists pure and simple. They have used the deaths of three innocent girls for their odious narrative, while many will return home to beat the shit out of their wives and children. Because they are thugs who get off on violence and domination first and foremost. What exactly should Keir Starmer have done to dissolve the 'tensions' when the people rioting are organised EDL based racists, with no basis for their actions other than the desire for a bloody good fight? To say anything recognising 'concerns' about immigration in response would be to justify and legitimise their thuggery. This is primarily about law and order, and of breaking communities apart. The vast majority of good people, on both the left and the right of the political spectrum, stand against racism and violence. And if you attempt to legitimise the actions of these thugs then I am afraid you have made it clear that you are not really interested in a sensible debate about immigration control. You stand with Tommy and his ilk.

Farage is every bit as odious of course, but as seen on this thread has a significant minority of supporters. He uses the same tactics as the far right rioters to galvanise support and organise action - social media, rather than democratic Parliamentary processes. A hateful, dangerous individual indeed.

Of course we need a sensible conversation about immigration, in the same way we need sensible conversations about gender identity, pensions, mental heath, the NHS, education etc. But Farage is an opportunistic one trick pony who has become absolutely blatant in his fascist ideology. And he has 4 million supporters. Let that sink in. You have friends and family who believe his rhetoric. Dangerous times ahead for the UK.

I mean, it’s an entirely relevant part of his past career now that he’s PM. Weird to try to claim it’s not.

It's interesting that most people have seen that execrable incident where some thugs were vetting car drivers, and right condemning it. And yet no one is condemning the scenes of huge gangs of Asian men, many with weapons, attacking protestors. In Bolton they had to be stopped by police horses. This is the BBC report on it:

https://twitter.com/AndyJackMorris/status/1820144393052909745

This Sky news report accidentally captured some of the ones with weapons:

twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1820147234949742979

How many people are actually aware that this was not a one-sided thing, and there were plenty of non-white thugs on the streets too?

The problem with unfettered mass immigration is not only do the indigenous population lose out but the migrants who come here seeking a better life are resented and become the targets of abuse. There is only so much resources a country has and in the UK everything is buckling under the pressure of demand from an ever increasing population.

I blame both Labour and conservative governments over the past 25 years for these riots as it was all very predictable. They have allowed mass immigrants without thoughtful planning of resources and schemes on how to integrate immigrants into the country peacefully. The attitude from politicians has been that it’ll work itself out, well that went well.

Then there is the question why mass immigration and illegal immigration has been allowed to happen to the extent it has been. My personal belief is politicians has been kowtowing to big business's insatiable want for cheap biddable labour and which the politicians themselves will eventually benefit from by been given well paid jobs from the same businesses when they leave politics.

@Alwaystired94 Why would I think it's a gotcha.? I think it's hysterical that he always mentions it. Many, many MPs previously held responsible jobs. They are just secure enough not to have to keep reminding people.

Absolutely, but when people are struggling, they look for someone to blame, they look for a strong leader. I hate Farage, but like it or not, he is an engaging speaker. Reform has no concrete costed policies, but 14% of the population were persuaded to vote for them, and writing off 14% of the population as idiots is a big mistake.

That's why Trump got in, why Bojo got in, awful people, but they gave people hope.
Ignore the root causes of why people voted for Farage, and we are heading for a disaster. Starmer only got in because people didn't like the other options, there is nothing particularly engaging about him, and that leaves a vacuum where a charismatic leader can move in and cause havoc.

Currently, labours 2 headline policies to be brought in so far are vat on school fees and reducing support for pensioners. Not exactly inspiring stuff. He will not succeed by condemning people, he will succeed by inspiring people to believe that he will make a significant positive difference to their lives.

The rioters are opportunists in this, but they are taking advantage of a political situation that’s been simmering for years. This is a societal problem, not an individual one, so it would be dangerous to ignore why this is happening.

Male violence is (and always has been) the problem - but why has this never been addressed over the whole time it’s been there?

Immigration has not been dealt with well, opportunists like Farage have been able to swoop in and gain supporters. Why? How? In the political scene this needs to be addressed.

He will shout LOUDLY and SLOWLY like all ignorant Brits abroad and expect everyone to bow to his Englishness

Though I expect he's in one of those resorts which is all Irish pubs and egg n chips like a hot Blackpool.

Because it was relevant to the discussion.