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Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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Safi7 · 05/08/2024 00:31

So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

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itsgettingweird · 05/08/2024 08:47

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There isn't.

So can you explain why they weren't processed in a timely manner to be able to contribute to the country as they want to?

Can you explain why you think this is what they fled persecution for?

Magn01a · 05/08/2024 08:48

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 05/08/2024 08:41

@Hummingbird75

Exactly My View

Same reason we have brexit
Same reason we have reform
Same reason we had Boris

The areas/people that are affected by
these issues are
NOT being listened too by main stream
Govt or the press.

By labelling them racist you drive it into secrecy and then right wing groups spring up

The Left are Driving this as much as the right

You’ve had 14 years of the right!!!!!

ilovesooty · 05/08/2024 08:48

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2024 07:22

The PM hasn't ignited any flames. Farage, Yaxley-Lennon and their ilk are responsible for that. The PM simply refused to appease the extremists and I'm glad that he has the courage to say it as it is.

I bloody hope that he has good security in place though.

Well said.

A Cobra meeting has been called so those previously whining about Starmer not calling one can STFU. At least we can expect Starmer to attend it.

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 08:48

Imagine fleeing Afghanistan because you assisted the British Army and having to flee for your life for this reason. Then getting here and the worst of our society then try and burn your hotel down with you and your family in it.

ExtraOnions · 05/08/2024 08:48

Well done Keir Starmer for calling them what they are, they are thugs. Why should he appease them, we tried appeasing Hitler in the 1930s, and look where that got us.

As a nation we got rid of the Mosley & his Blackshirts in the 30s, stood up to Enoch Powell in the 60s, chased the NF out in the 70s, stood up to the BNP, EDL etc.

We have always had these Racists in our country .. causing fear, inflicting violence, rioting, assaulting people. This is just same thing, different year.

The people involved can now sit in prison, whilst those who stoked the flames go on get richer.

Immigration is going nowhere .. we lost control over “boats” when we left the EU. Legal Migration is higher than ever because our underfunding eduction system, means we don’t have enough skilled workers - there are now plans to address this, but it takes time.

Lots of people are living in hotels, as we are taking years to review cases and make decision, due to cuts at the Home Office - there are plans in place to address this, but it takes time

These riots suit Farage etc perfectly .. they want to whip up anti-government trouble, suits the narrative. He’s a chancer & an opportunist.

InsensibleMe · 05/08/2024 08:49

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Or, you could put your actual name to your nasty racist views.
Or are you really ashamed of yourself?

PurpleFlower1983 · 05/08/2024 08:49

orchiddottyback · 05/08/2024 01:10

Sorry i'm not in the minority that's all in your head and such a lazy thing to say pathetic. 🙄

You absolutely are. Most people are decent and tolerant of others and most people can see Farage for what he is, a racist, homophobic abhorrent human being who is inciting hate. The same happened in Germany in the 1930s. If you are happy to be a part of that then that’s on you.

mm81736 · 05/08/2024 08:49

itsgettingweird · 05/08/2024 08:47

There isn't.

So can you explain why they weren't processed in a timely manner to be able to contribute to the country as they want to?

Can you explain why you think this is what they fled persecution for?

1 The infrastructure cannot cope.There are too many of them
2 They are not fleeing persecution

FayeGreener · 05/08/2024 08:51

Once again for the slow ones at the back.

Farage is not a cause but a symptom. If there weren’t already deep deep problems in our society he wouldn’t be popular.

Believe you me, if you ignore Farage the leader you get after Farage is going to make him look like the Easter Bunny.

lemonmeringueno3 · 05/08/2024 08:52

"By labelling them racist you drive it into secrecy and then right wing groups spring up."

But what else can you label racists, when they are displaying racism? I mean, what else should we call it?

They're not protesting Australian students overstaying their visa, or Scandinavians marrying British people and moving here, or indigenous British people committing heinous crimes. It is very clear what their root objection is.

PurpleFlower1983 · 05/08/2024 08:52

mm81736 · 05/08/2024 08:49

1 The infrastructure cannot cope.There are too many of them
2 They are not fleeing persecution

So many of ‘them’. This them and us language. Read up on your European history around 1930…

This is such a scary time.

Combattingthemoaners · 05/08/2024 08:54

orchiddottyback · 05/08/2024 01:05

He had one job this weekend, just one. It was a simple task to try to calm things down and tell the people he understands their frustration and was going to deal with it and then also add that violence is not the answer and would not be stood for.

What he did however is challenge every single person who is unhappy and label them all far right thugs and threaten them. Now, not sure how you deal with issues in your household but when tensions are high you do not stand their with a big can of petrol and threatened every one with a wooden robotic manner and call them out and then today double down on it. He's a prick plain and simple.

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How many times?? This isn’t THE PEOPLE. It’s the EDL and teenage thugs. They ARE far right thugs who are smashing up shops, chanting racist slogans, beating up Asian men, sporting swastikas, throwing bricks at police. They are NOT the people of this country and I’m sick of reading that on here.

Izzymoon · 05/08/2024 08:54

Anyone who refuses to call these people thugs or denies that they are is absolutely beyond me. Some posters bending themselves backwards to claim this is normal or reasonable concern for immigration.
Anyone involved in any way in ‘protests’ that involve stoning the police, petrol bombs, attacking mosques, attacking buildings etc is absolutely a thug.
Here the demonstrations involved burning out small businesses owned by immigrants, Nazi salutes and people brining their children along to this with 10 year olds screaming ‘Pakis out!’. It’s fucking outrageous and anyone who says “we can’t just label them thugs” is part of the problem.
Not all concerns are valid, not all actions are valid and not all views should be pandered to.

In what way is burning down a small family business a response to a UK born person of immigrant decent?? It’s not even logical.
I’m going to show my distain for immigration by ruining a thriving business that hard working people have established and assimilated themselves into the community??

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 05/08/2024 08:54

@Alwaystired94

I don't blame the normal people for the violence. Those rioting are thugs Looking for excuses. Pure and simple.

But
The situation we are in now is the result of a decade of normal people being branded racist for trying to speak out about the immigration issue.

All the Things mumsnetters like to moan about brexit reform Boris ARE the result of
This. Farage is a very clever man That's why
He timed his "I'm a celeb" appearance. Look
How well he
Did, 3rd place wasn't it??

This is partly Due to the
Lefts insistence that everyone on the right is a racist and they are the only View to own.

(Plus 13
Years
Of no investment from tories)

If Labour are Too Left wing
On this then reform Will be
In the next parliament. Or at the Very Least tories will Be
Back.

itsgettingweird · 05/08/2024 08:55

AnneTwacky · 05/08/2024 06:48

I do blame Farage...
...and everyone else in power who has spouted that disingenuous far right rhetoric over the past 8 or so years.

And why should Kier Starmer even try to appease mobs who have vandalised and terrorised communities up and down England all weekend.

If they're trying to "save our kids" why burn down a community library or charge at families enjoying a day out in Liverpool? Why vandalised people's homes in Middlesbrough? Why set a hotel on fire and block the exits in Rotherham? Wicked behaviour.

And if you're that brainwashed you can't see you're being used as Farage's/ Robinson's pawns while they sit back and keep their hands "clean", I don't know what I can say to get through to you.

Spot on.

We are t saving our communities or the children within it - by destroying them.

These thick idiots are too thick to see that.

They just want a fight. They will happily destroy the very things they pretend they are protecting whilst they do it.

Bushmillsbabe · 05/08/2024 08:55

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Then we need to make sure they 'aren't lounging around in hotels'. We need to process them quicker to either grant asylum so they can get a job, or deport them. The system is so sluggish.
They should be in a secure immigration centre so can be monitored, and then deported quickly if their asylum claim is not granted. Unfortunately a few bad apples are giving the whole group a bad name.

I would be interested in the stats though of how many families vs single men are coming, as it's claimed thats it's mainly young men coming. I can't see any decent man coming over and leaving his family (women, children,elderly) in a place he deems to be too unsafe for himself, so I wonder if saying it's mainly young men is more proproganda

lemonmeringueno3 · 05/08/2024 08:56

"1 The infrastructure cannot cope.There are too many of them
2 They are not fleeing persecution."

  1. Immigrants are not the reason you can't see a doctor. They are the ones propping the infrastructure up.
  1. I will believe the professionals assessing them on that one I think.

You can't present your feelings and opinions as facts. Your feelings and opinions are being manipulated by those with a vested interest.

Alexandra2001 · 05/08/2024 08:57

mm81736 · 05/08/2024 08:49

1 The infrastructure cannot cope.There are too many of them
2 They are not fleeing persecution

Lack of infrastructure is down to the Government not providing it, there is little infrastructure in Devon and Cornwall, almost no migration.

You don't know them personally, so you have no idea what they are escaping, in regard to asylum seekers, who can claim asylum anywhere, not the first "safe country"

The vast majority of migration is people allowed in legally, 750k last year, made up of workers, dependents and students.

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 08:57

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 08:37

The 'men' in those videos are exactly the men i'd leave a train carriage to avoid, the ones i'd avoid on a street and wouldn't want to be alone anywhere near.

There is a correlation between 'conservative'/nationalist views and VAWG. Look at their own chants " save OUR girls" ownership.

It is important to remember that those they are most likely to harm are those they know - in their families. I fear there has been a wave of domestic violence when the thugs have returned home from the riots.

bombastix · 05/08/2024 08:57

Midnightalready · 05/08/2024 08:36

Well, I think you might be proved wrong there. I come from the left, and even in those elevated circles (sarcasm) there are signs of disquiet. Sweden was famous for its peaceful and stable society, and thought it could absorb large numbers of people from significantly different cultures with no consequences. It has not gone well.

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/sweden-immigrants-crisis/

https://www.fmreview.org/parusel/

i hear in Middlesbrough they have a new traffic law by the rioters. They ask if you are white and if you are English. Then you get to drive your car up the road.

That is the bottom line here: you either want law made by democracy or you can have it “local”. I guess a lot on here are up for the white English car driver test

Izzymoon · 05/08/2024 08:57

@FayeGreener Believe you me, if you ignore Farage the leader you get after Farage is going to make him look like the Easter Bunny.

Farage is loud and outrageous on purpose, he enjoys stoking tensions and revelling in the small levels of power he manages to grab, but it’s incredibly clear based on the recent general election that despite what you claim the people who buy into it are in the minority.

mm81736 · 05/08/2024 08:58

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2024 08:40

So if so many share your views, why do you think that Reform only won 5 seats?

You're in a minority and you always will be. The majority of British people will continue to reject racism. Learn to live with it.

Reform won 14% of the vote , approx 60% of the Conservative share and nearly half the Labour share. They are not a tiny minority.Most people are worried about the environment and yet reform got twice as many votes as the green party.

RampantIvy · 05/08/2024 08:58

Anyone who refuses to call these people thugs or denies that they are is beyond me.

I agree. Violence is never the answer.

Magn01a · 05/08/2024 08:58

mm81736 · 05/08/2024 08:49

1 The infrastructure cannot cope.There are too many of them
2 They are not fleeing persecution

The infrastructure can cope but it has been run into the ground by the Tories. It served them to blame immigration and lie the same they did with Brexit, the realities of Rwanda…

Alwaystired94 · 05/08/2024 08:58

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 05/08/2024 08:54

@Alwaystired94

I don't blame the normal people for the violence. Those rioting are thugs Looking for excuses. Pure and simple.

But
The situation we are in now is the result of a decade of normal people being branded racist for trying to speak out about the immigration issue.

All the Things mumsnetters like to moan about brexit reform Boris ARE the result of
This. Farage is a very clever man That's why
He timed his "I'm a celeb" appearance. Look
How well he
Did, 3rd place wasn't it??

This is partly Due to the
Lefts insistence that everyone on the right is a racist and they are the only View to own.

(Plus 13
Years
Of no investment from tories)

If Labour are Too Left wing
On this then reform Will be
In the next parliament. Or at the Very Least tories will Be
Back.

"decade of normal people being branded racist for trying to speak out about the immigration issue."

If they can' speak about immigration without being racist thats on them, not on us for calling them out for it,

Lol you really think this current Labour Government are left wing?

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