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Very much looking forward to the court cases

276 replies

Friendsfestival · 04/08/2024 19:36

Absolute sub-human scum rioting in the streets. Attacking hotels with humans inside. Burning down libraries and CABs. Pretending it’s about immigration when it’s just mindless animal violence.

I am very much looking forward to their days in court. Starting point for Violent Disorder - two years. Attempted Murder? Life sentence.

Not so hard now, are you lads? Fuck you all. I just sympathise with their wives and kids cos a sentence like that means saying goodbye to any social housing they might live in.

And they filmed themselves. I hope they live in fear of that knock on the door for years. Then when it comes, I hope they realise that they’ve ruined their lives.

Them, and the traitors who encouraged them.

Scumbags one and all.

And frankly I don’t care if anyone thinks I’m being unreasonable or not.

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Nat6999 · 04/08/2024 23:03

Some have already been fired from their jobs, where employers have been told what their employees have been doing through social media. One of the ones at Rotherham today works for Tata Steel, who have said he will be fired tomorrow.

ThePotholeHelpline · 04/08/2024 23:03

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 22:44

What? The innocent wives, children, mothers and siblings? Aren't you perfectly delightful?

By the looks of the footage, a lot of the rioters are accompanied by their wives/girlfriends and kids.
One woman in Rotherham brought her baby along to join in. Was sat right at the front on the grass between police and rioters showing her baby the action.
A lot of those teenagers are with their dads and uncles without a doubt.

These are families and friends rioting together on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

RightOnTheEdge · 04/08/2024 23:07

TheFlis · 04/08/2024 22:36

They showed one on the news earlier, his grubby tracksuit was being gently gripped by 2 beautiful huge police dogs and he was wailing and squealing like a pig, it was brilliant.

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I really enjoyed watching that!

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 23:09

By the looks of the footage, a lot of the rioters are accompanied by their wives/girlfriends and kids.
One woman in Rotherham brought her baby along to join in. Was sat right at the front on the grass between police and rioters showing her baby the action.
A lot of those teenagers are with their dads and uncles without a doubt.

These are families and friends rioting together on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

Well they're revolting and some of them need child protection enquiries as well as criminal charges maybe, but I don't see that innocent partners (and all the children are innocent too) deserve homelessness's by association and I don't see that twin track justice for homeowners versus tenants is equitable either.

Absolutely bizarre angle OP has inserted into this, and it's disturbing how many MNers are prepared to think criminal justice needs to be backed up with enforced homelessness (but only for the less fortunate).

Marseillaise · 04/08/2024 23:10

Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 19:55

Don't forget the mandatory 1/3 off for pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity

And don't forget two years is the starting point. I doubt that many of these will qualify for the lowest tariff.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/08/2024 23:11

Animal violence!!!! You must know some strange animals that go around looting setting fires and terrorizing communities and destroying businesses. Please don’t compare thugs to animals. Animals wouldn’t behave like that.

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ImikSiMik · 04/08/2024 23:12

Choochoo21 · 04/08/2024 21:14

So it should be.

They are violent, racist bullies who are setting fire to hotels where children are living.

They are looting and setting fire to shops where we work.

They are attacking the police and strangers on the street for no reason.

The police are taking so much time trying to control these thugs, that anyone trying to ring 999 is now going to have an even longer wait for the police to arrive to help them.

These are the same men who attack their partners or make their kids live in fear, because they are bullies who need to try and intimidate others to make themselves feel superior.

I hope people do hate them.
There is absolutely nothing not to hate about them.

Yet the ironic thing is these thugs have been seen with t shorts/posters with the save our kids slogans.

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 23:12

greatplanstan · 04/08/2024 22:50

A poster asked for a link to the legislation with regards to the social housing element.

New grounds were added for possession as part of the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/section/99/enacted?view=plain

I have no data as to how many if any possessions have been made using these grounds, but do agree that again, as rioting is mainly, but not all men that their actions again are likely to negatively impact women and children.

I don't think there is similar legislation for those who own their home.

Oh wow.

That is an interesting development.

I massively disapprove but yeah....interesting.

Has it been subject to judicial review or higher appeal or whatnot yet?

mommatoone · 04/08/2024 23:15

Let's hope they get the punishments they deserve, along with costs to cover the damage caused and loss of earnings for businesses. Scum they are.

SheilaWilde · 04/08/2024 23:19

I hope they do get prison terms but they’ll be loads who get away with it. Vile behaviour.

bakail · 04/08/2024 23:20

The police dog biting a drunken yob on the backside was the highlight of the weekend. I've watched it several times now to cheer myself up.

ImikSiMik · 04/08/2024 23:21

Tax payers shouldn't have to foot the bill through welfare payments for thugs who have been fired from their jobs. The irony is that they have made themselves unemployable so reliant on the welfare system. Exactly what they accuse immigrants of, coming here, claiming benefits & not working. Just like them now........

Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 23:22

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 23:12

Oh wow.

That is an interesting development.

I massively disapprove but yeah....interesting.

Has it been subject to judicial review or higher appeal or whatnot yet?

No it hasn't

Strumpetpumpet · 04/08/2024 23:23

They’ve picked on the wrong prime minister. He was DPP at the time of the 2011 riots - plenty of decent long sentences dished out to the yobs involved. Sincerely hope these dickheads get what’s coming to them. Not one of them gives a toss about the poor souls murdered in Southport, they are vile racist thugs looking for an excuse to riot and I sincerely hope they all rot in hell.

LuluBlakey1 · 04/08/2024 23:23

Friendsfestival · 04/08/2024 19:36

Absolute sub-human scum rioting in the streets. Attacking hotels with humans inside. Burning down libraries and CABs. Pretending it’s about immigration when it’s just mindless animal violence.

I am very much looking forward to their days in court. Starting point for Violent Disorder - two years. Attempted Murder? Life sentence.

Not so hard now, are you lads? Fuck you all. I just sympathise with their wives and kids cos a sentence like that means saying goodbye to any social housing they might live in.

And they filmed themselves. I hope they live in fear of that knock on the door for years. Then when it comes, I hope they realise that they’ve ruined their lives.

Them, and the traitors who encouraged them.

Scumbags one and all.

And frankly I don’t care if anyone thinks I’m being unreasonable or not.

They'll get 100 hours community service and a suspended sentence.

The punishments should be :
Detention in a prison for a year with absolutely no probation, no 'rewards' no tv/radio/phones/social time/letters or visits.
7 days a week hard work in a chain gang, cleaning roadsides, beaches, local communities of rubbish and graffiti- 10 hours a day whatever the weather

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 23:24

No it hasn't

Thanks.

matildamiracle · 04/08/2024 23:27

ExtraOnions · 04/08/2024 20:06

Arson with intent … life sentence

Looting .. anything from 6 months to 3 years

Inciting a riot anywhere between 3-6 years

Keyboard warriors got 4 years after the London riots.

Get them locked up ..

All of that was before the courts were given MORE power for disruption, thanks to the Tories and Just Stop Oil.

Those who took part in these riots will get the heaviest sentance ever seen in the UK, watch

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 04/08/2024 23:30

That won’t stop them. It’ll just further their delusional hatred. They won’t see it as “jailed for causing absolute chaos, risking lives and frightening everyone” they’ll be crying “put me inside for speaking out and saying what everyone’s thinking”
These views and the actions behind them won’t go away with a jail sentence, they’re ingrained in these people and no matter their punishment they’ll come out of prison even more hateful and vengeful

Lifeomars · 04/08/2024 23:33

I hope that the adults who took children with them are brought to the attention of social services. There were children present when the hotel housing asylum seekers was set alight. Why would you do that unless you just want to raise the next generation of anti-social no hopers.

tolerable · 04/08/2024 23:37

you being ridiculous. sound sorta hysterical...do you actual believe yourself? They cant evict entire family for actions of one person. Letting em out early didnt see anyone rioting bout THAT. no i do not condone fear and violence.
nor do i believe the roits are even a response to southport atrocity.
frankly i dont care....is the abandonment that this pish stems from...

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 23:38

Lifeomars · 04/08/2024 23:33

I hope that the adults who took children with them are brought to the attention of social services. There were children present when the hotel housing asylum seekers was set alight. Why would you do that unless you just want to raise the next generation of anti-social no hopers.

Yes so do I.

AvocadoDevil · 04/08/2024 23:38

Very much looking forward to the government maybe finally realising that most of the country is sick of politicians not dealing with immigration - fat chance I know.

Timewilltell519 · 04/08/2024 23:41

kateluvscats · 04/08/2024 21:02

Does this include the thugs in Harehills?

This level of whataboutery is ridiculous. I’m sure your post must be a joke. The scale of the harehills riot was nothing like trying to burn down a hotel with people in it!

VanGoghsDog · 05/08/2024 00:00

TokyoSushi · 04/08/2024 20:07

There's no space in the prisons though...

The Bibby Stockholm is empty....

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