Very much looking forward to the court cases

[Friendsfestival]

Absolute sub-human scum rioting in the streets. Attacking hotels with humans inside. Burning down libraries and CABs. Pretending it’s about immigration when it’s just mindless animal violence.

I am very much looking forward to their days in court. Starting point for Violent Disorder - two years. Attempted Murder? Life sentence.

Not so hard now, are you lads? Fuck you all. I just sympathise with their wives and kids cos a sentence like that means saying goodbye to any social housing they might live in.

And they filmed themselves. I hope they live in fear of that knock on the door for years. Then when it comes, I hope they realise that they’ve ruined their lives.

Them, and the traitors who encouraged them.

Scumbags one and all.

And frankly I don’t care if anyone thinks I’m being unreasonable or not.

I'd go with good ole curfews and tags and community service.

But community service is nice jumpsuits that shows someone you're a rioter. And community service that makes them fix the damage they've caused.

I'd love tags that alarm if you aren't at home plugged into a system by your curfew time.

You think hiding behind a mask whilst you do this is clever? Nah. Come out and show the world who you are if you truely believe what you're doing is for the greater good.

This isn’t about class.

This is about violent bullies trying to feel superior and they are the ones who are more likely to attack their partners and children.

Most of these thugs are out drinking all day and night and not worrying about work the next day, so they are either incredibly rich or they’re the scum that gives council estates and people on benefits a bad name.

Couldn't agree with you more @Friendsfestival

@Choochoo21 it wouldn’t be mumsnet if there wasn’t an element of classism.

I was thinking Rwanda.

Except the early release scheme is for non violent offences with custodial sentences less than 2 years.

The younger ones are likely to be living at home with their parents.

How horrifying to find out just what your DC’s are capable of.

They showed one on the news earlier, his grubby tracksuit was being gently gripped by 2 beautiful huge police dogs and he was wailing and squealing like a pig, it was brilliant.

Wonder if any of them will get a harsher sentence than Cressida and co.

This happened in 2011 in Wandsworth (one of the centres of rioting was Clapham Junction). If a person on a tenancy was convicted of certain offences, the tenancy could be ended.

Caused much discussion on MN at the time (because homeowning rioters did not lose their homes), but much local support from damaged communities who did not want those who caused the damage to remain there.

(I was formerly fairly local)

Me too. I remember it well.

I thought that Wandsworth were told it wasn't legal to do that (largely mums of rioters at risk of being evicted in that scenario).

What? The innocent wives, children, mothers and siblings? Aren't you perfectly delightful?

Absolutely with you OP - I started a thread a few days ago to express my disgust.

But the last couple of days I’ve been thinking about the locations of some of the riots. Are they housing refugees (who I am happy that our country is looking after) in poor (often mostly white) areas which is creating kind of ghettos?

I feel like a lot of the people rioting are too thick to realise that this isn’t the fault of brown/ Muslim/ any one not white…

A poster asked for a link to the legislation with regards to the social housing element.

New grounds were added for possession as part of the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/section/99/enacted?view=plain

I have no data as to how many if any possessions have been made using these grounds, but do agree that again, as rioting is mainly, but not all men that their actions again are likely to negatively impact women and children.

I don't think there is similar legislation for those who own their home.

I thought this image was a pretty accurate representation…

Don’t worry. Most of them will be let off with community service or something. Sending people to prison these days is considered an outrage by the very ‘progressives’ frothing right now at the rioters.

There are plenty of home owning rioters too.

The snobbery and stereotyping is off the scale.

That's only been posted about three dozen times on MN today.

Do you think we're in danger of diluting the impact slightly?

It's those "EDL" types that moan that the country is wasting public money on asylum seekers yet they're trashing public areas and services like the police using...you've guessed it...public money......🙈

Lol - First time on MN today.

This isn’t about class.

It absolutely is about class - or at least about wealth - when otherwise identical rioters will get different consequences based on their housing tenure. How is that ever justice?

Putting them on home curfew for ten years after their custodial sentences seems fair to me.

It was refurbished with single rooms, a gym, access to medical and dental care but it wasn't good enough. Wouldn't you think that they would be grateful for the facilities, after all, haven't they just escaped from a war zone? 🙄

Lol - First time on MN today.

It really isn't.

We've even had the "half biscuit" variant.

Don't get me wrong it's a clever illustration but blimey it's over-exposed suddenly.

I meant it’s my first time looking at MN today meaning I hadn’t seen that it had been posted before.

How do yu know they haven't got jobs? Most of us are angry at illegal immigrants being housed in hotels at our expense.
Most people are annoyed at the infrastructure creaking at the seams.Go and educate yourself!

I meant it’s my first time looking at MN today meaning I hadn’t seen that it had been posted before.

That would explain it.