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To think you're not really that adventurous if you have your husband with you

245 replies

GigglingSid · 04/08/2024 05:55

I'm part of a group for families who enjoy travel, nature, camping, outdoor pursuits, both in the UK and abroad. It's not a very single parent friendly group, some of the advice given, particularly around my budget for certain holidays has been very rude. There's been a lot of women commenting 'well my husband will always drive/ put up the tent/ plan routes/ bugger off cycling all day and leave me with the kids.
I've been away this week and have been chatting to various people on the group about hiking routes, camping spots etc. It suddenly struck me that many of these families have credit cards with limitless amounts on them, expensive cars, tents and camping equipment worth thousands and they are also nearly all heteronormative couples. What a different experience trekking though the Sahara as or with a large white man with you compared to my experience as a short, mid thirties woman?
I feel like I've been conned a little bit into thinking I wasn't able to be part of this elite club as I wasn't savvy enough at reading a OS map or that great at kayaking.
But maybe actually being a woman on her own, with two kids, £200 and an Aldi tent makes me the most adventurous of them all?

OP posts:
Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 10:20

MattSmithsBowTie · 04/08/2024 07:42

I can do anything a man can do, and I’m a tall, heteronormative white woman. So does that make me the most adventurous of all?

Or the least? with all your advantages being tall & all 😆

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 10:23

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/08/2024 09:49

I don’t think that poster said people were bitter because they are unmarried or childless though.

They said they were bitter because they are posting the things the poster, they quoted, had seen on social media

Spot on @ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 10:24

justbeingasmartarse · 04/08/2024 09:43

Viewing a woman as bitter because she’s unmarried and/or childless is itself a stereotype tbf

Edited

It’s not what I said.

StormingNorman · 04/08/2024 10:27

I think it’s brave OP. It doesn’t detract from anyone else to recognise that you’re out there doing it without the same financial, physical or emotional safety net as everyone else in your group.

Namename12345562 · 04/08/2024 10:28

StormingNorman · 04/08/2024 10:27

I think it’s brave OP. It doesn’t detract from anyone else to recognise that you’re out there doing it without the same financial, physical or emotional safety net as everyone else in your group.

💯

MikeRafone · 04/08/2024 11:17

Does bravery equate to stepping out of a comfort zone or doing things that a majority of others aren’t doing?

housethatbuiltme · 04/08/2024 11:31

AdviceNeeded2024 · 04/08/2024 09:18

I read your post twice and I genuinely don’t know what you are talking about or what you mean? Can you buy bravery along with a tent on the middle isle at Aldi now or something?!

I also have absolutely no idea what “heteronormative” means.

Its mean straight... obviously lesbians can't camp for some reason.

Maybe they're not brave enough because they don't have a husbands hand to hold and they just aren't as 'not like other girls' as OP.

StMarieforme · 04/08/2024 11:33

Comparison is the thief of joy.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 04/08/2024 11:35

housethatbuiltme · 04/08/2024 11:31

Its mean straight... obviously lesbians can't camp for some reason.

Maybe they're not brave enough because they don't have a husbands hand to hold and they just aren't as 'not like other girls' as OP.

I thought it might mean straight, although I have never heard that word myself, but then I thought what on earth has being straight got to do with camping, travelling or travelling so I concluded I was wrong!

housethatbuiltme · 04/08/2024 11:36

TheKeatingFive · 04/08/2024 09:46

I'm not sure why you're complaining to this group being heteronormative. If it's a family group, surely it has to be to a large degree?

Why?

Most of my 'gay' friends are family units.

We are well past the days of 'spinsters' living together as 'roommates' and the odd glances at the strange man who just 'never found a wife'. Getting married and raising children is as normal to all groups now as it is to just 'straights'.

TorroFerney · 04/08/2024 13:06

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 10:01

@TorroFerney & @Hoardasurass god me too... can they not just be couples? No one bats an eye these days (& for a long time thank christ!) about other peoples relationship dynamics

I know, that’s the irony for me as well. Can’t we just be humans, I really do not need a label that tells me who you have sex with. When male bands in the 80’s wore frocks and make up no one cared.

TheKeatingFive · 04/08/2024 13:13

housethatbuiltme · 04/08/2024 11:36

Why?

Most of my 'gay' friends are family units.

We are well past the days of 'spinsters' living together as 'roommates' and the odd glances at the strange man who just 'never found a wife'. Getting married and raising children is as normal to all groups now as it is to just 'straights'.

Of course gay couples can have children, but the logistics of that are more complex and there are fewer gay couples to begin with. The vast majority of children are still being brought up within a 'heteronormative' family structure.

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 14:00

OP wasn’t brave enough to come back.

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 14:03

TorroFerney · 04/08/2024 13:06

I know, that’s the irony for me as well. Can’t we just be humans, I really do not need a label that tells me who you have sex with. When male bands in the 80’s wore frocks and make up no one cared.

In fact my sister & cousins took style tips 😆

bore off with your labels

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 14:06

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 10:01

@TorroFerney & @Hoardasurass god me too... can they not just be couples? No one bats an eye these days (& for a long time thank christ!) about other peoples relationship dynamics

No, that would be too easy.

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 14:06

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 14:00

OP wasn’t brave enough to come back.

or Adventurous?

Stompythedinosaur · 04/08/2024 14:06

I think you're seeing competition where there isn't any.

What they do doesn't take away from the adventurousness of what you do.

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 14:09

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 14:06

or Adventurous?

Feeling very superior and adventurous in her Aldi tent, thinking about how to label people in new ways.

Disturbia81 · 04/08/2024 14:10

MillyMollyMandHey · 04/08/2024 05:57

You don’t need to take things away from other people in order to validate yourself.

Stop worrying about other people so much.

This phrase needs to be said over and over for all aspects of life.

Disturbia81 · 04/08/2024 14:11

@MillyMollyMandHey The first bit I mean

Caroparo52 · 04/08/2024 14:12

Absolutely. And you are the hero of the campsite. The pampered wives are on another planet congratulating themselves on leaving their posh safe homes for a few nights luxury camping. Kidding themselves they are really cool and wild

Bishbashtosh · 04/08/2024 14:16

Yes i think you are quite brave. I am not adventurous or into "real travelling" and would never willingly go camping. We have taken kids glamping and loved it. But wouldnt do it alone. But why care how and why others do it?

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 14:22

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 14:09

Feeling very superior and adventurous in her Aldi tent, thinking about how to label people in new ways.

Maybe she is? I missed the Middle Aisle that week...

I was too busy grouping my friends & preparing them for my hetero-normative failure to launch my pop up tent

justfinethanks · 04/08/2024 14:26

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 14:22

Maybe she is? I missed the Middle Aisle that week...

I was too busy grouping my friends & preparing them for my hetero-normative failure to launch my pop up tent

Off to tell my husband and children that we are now considered a heteronormative failure.
Does this mean our cat is a failure too, I mean she is 17 and like a family member.

Scorchio84 · 04/08/2024 14:27

Disturbia81 · 04/08/2024 14:10

This phrase needs to be said over and over for all aspects of life.

Comparison is the thief of joy