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Saying no to childcare in the holidays

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Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:03

I today put my foot down and said no to my DSIL asking me to look after her three DC for two days next week. I have DC of my own and I am a full time mum while my DH works long hours. Last week I looked after my DN’s for two days. I I get my DSIL works and I am always happy to help but this is turning into more than the odd day. Of course my DBIL
has spoke to my DH about this and how disappointed he is etc etc. I don’t want to fall out but I feel enough is enough. I plan my DC activities in the holidays and next week two have swimming and one a drama group. this gives me a chance to catch up on jobs. So when DSIL asked me again and for three days I said no. It took me a lot to say no but now I feel
like a pig in the middle.
anyone else who is a full time mum feel like they are being took advantage of.

OP posts:
Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:42

ReggaetonLente · 03/08/2024 22:40

SAHM mum here and I get this too OP. Last week we were invited for a play date at someone’s house and the mum went out! Leaving me to look after her daughter and mine, in her house!

I’ve also taken some kids on outings and had them over for the day which is fine but I hope they remember and help me out when I go back to work in September!

Oh now that is taking the P

OP posts:
godmum56 · 03/08/2024 22:42

Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:25

Never had my DC.
they tend to take each day as it comes. So last half term I had them for three days. They both do shift work. I know DSIL DB also helps out. They don’t ever have plans. I was asked the days the DC broke up from school to have them. I cannot do 5 weeks of this so I decided of it happened again I would say no. Also my DC want to see their own friends and it isn’t possible with 6 DC. I can never go out as my car isn’t big enough.
it is hard when it is family to say no

It gets easier with practice!

Greatbritish · 03/08/2024 22:42

Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:25

Never had my DC.
they tend to take each day as it comes. So last half term I had them for three days. They both do shift work. I know DSIL DB also helps out. They don’t ever have plans. I was asked the days the DC broke up from school to have them. I cannot do 5 weeks of this so I decided of it happened again I would say no. Also my DC want to see their own friends and it isn’t possible with 6 DC. I can never go out as my car isn’t big enough.
it is hard when it is family to say no

You've now said no. It's hard, but you've done it. 👏👏👏

Keep saying it to whoever asks tomorrow and in the future.

You're not in the wrong here, they are.

CinnamonTart · 03/08/2024 22:43

It’s so important for your kids to have time with YOU and each other too - without extras coming in and changing all the dynamics. Even though it’s hard on you - it’s actually your kids who pick up the bill. Hold you reserve OP!

Bossladywood · 03/08/2024 22:44

whiteroseredrose · 03/08/2024 22:13

YANBU. I was a SAHM and we took a financial hit as a family so that I would have more time for our DC, not so that I could be free childcare for families who still had two full incomes.

Exactly this!!!

I gave up work to look after our 3 children, took the wage cut on board but was made to feel guilty because I didn’t want to look after my nieces/nephews through the holidays!

it’s like nope, I done this to look after my children, not theirs and they too could decide to do that to so nope YANBU

DavidBeckhamsrightfoot · 03/08/2024 22:44

Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:07

I used to work part time and did look at full time but DH for a promotion which did mean more money but longer hours so gave up work to look after my three DC. Since then I have been asked again and again. Last week she said she was desperate and as I had nothing planned said yes but this week I said no. My DBIL has yet again text my DH about families helping out etc.

That's great.
When have they and will they help you?
As this sounds very one way

needmoresheep · 03/08/2024 22:46

Bloody ridiculous you can’t possible mind 6 kids 2 or 3 days a week for the holidays! Cheeky DSIL is expecting you to pick all all the slack due to her and her DH piss poor planning? Did the summer holidays come as a surprise to them? What were they expecting dropping 3 kids off, leaving you to feed and entertain them before picking them up later to put to bed? Stick to your guns!

if you give in now it will be every school holiday!

AffableApple · 03/08/2024 22:46

whiteroseredrose · 03/08/2024 22:13

YANBU. I was a SAHM and we took a financial hit as a family so that I would have more time for our DC, not so that I could be free childcare for families who still had two full incomes.

This is your reply, OP

Lurkingandlearning · 03/08/2024 22:46

If they’ve never looked after your children, what DBIL means when he says family should help each other is only that your family should help his family.

And what’s this nonsense with him calling your husband after you had already said no? Seems a bit like he feels your DH should make you toe the line.

I think I would call him and let him know that you have only said no for next week and if he can’t accept that with good grace they can kiss goodbye to you ever doing childminding again

Tereseta · 03/08/2024 22:48

Stick to your guns, they are being so cheeky, and at your children's expense!
Let MIL look after them if she throws her opinion in aswell!

Namechangenoooo · 03/08/2024 22:51

Just say no..easy!

arethereanyleftatall · 03/08/2024 22:52

Yanbu.

Absolutely stick to you guns.

But more than that, you need to work on not feeling guilty about it, not feeling bad.

You haven't done anything wrong at all. The fault is theirs.

I like the idea the poster above had of turning this around. Not only will you not feel guilty, but you'll call them out on how rude and entitled it is to ask.

NotSureWhatUsernameToChoose · 03/08/2024 22:55

ReggaetonLente · 03/08/2024 22:40

SAHM mum here and I get this too OP. Last week we were invited for a play date at someone’s house and the mum went out! Leaving me to look after her daughter and mine, in her house!

I’ve also taken some kids on outings and had them over for the day which is fine but I hope they remember and help me out when I go back to work in September!

She did WHAT??!

And you just sat there and and didn't say "nah thanks, DD and I are off"?

That is nuts. What did she/you say when she got back 😯

whatsappdoc · 03/08/2024 22:56

Your dh should ask bil why he hasn't arranged childcare for the summer or does he always leave it to his wife to sort out?

Holidayhell22 · 03/08/2024 22:57

They used their annual leave to take their dcs on holiday in term time! Plus they both took a months leave at the same time! Oh wow. They are idiots. I would say to your dh that you will not be providing free childcare again, ever.
Personally I would help out now and again but not to parents like this, no way.
Yes tell your dh that your bil can sort his own childcare out. He can take unpaid leave and then sil can take unpaid leave the next time.

Supermacs · 03/08/2024 22:58

If I were you Id make lots of plans for the rest of the holidays too. Dbil saying families support each other just means he expects help as and when he wants it. I wouldnt let them guilt you about anything either, get angry at their entitled behaviour and make it as awkward as possible for them. Maybe then theyll have to cough up for childcare like everyone else has to

Goldcushions2 · 03/08/2024 22:59

Keep saying no and to contact MIL.
Do not allow your husbands family to make an unpaid childminder out of you.
A month a way at Easter?
They really think you are a mug.
Listen to your children, the want to enjoy a peaceful house.
You don't owe anyone childcare.
I would be apoplectic at my husband being contacted about MY time.
Cheeky fxxkers.

PadstowGirl · 03/08/2024 23:02

The best bit is when they say "you are so lucky not to have to pay childcare".
Err...No! My childcare cost me my whole career salary for 5 years.
I learned to say "sorry lovely, that doesn't work for us".

ThursdayTomorrow · 03/08/2024 23:02

OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 03/08/2024 22:23

Yanbu to say no to childcare but you are being vvvv unreasonable to use thr phrase "full time mum" which is sickeningly insulting. All mums are "full time" - most especially when we are working to put food on our DC's table and a roof over their heads. You having the privilege of a partner whose income means you don't have to work is veru nice but that makes you a Stay At Home Parent. You don't spend a single extra minute "being a mum" than a woman who works.

But of course you don't have to give anyone free childcare and it's fine to say no.

Personally I'd much rather make arrangements with other working mums so that I can offer to reciprocate the favour in a different week.

Really? A bit of an over reaction here. “Sickeningly insulting” I think not, it’s just a phrase that people used to use to describe being a SAHM.
I can think of some phrases that are sickeningly insulting but full time mum isn’t one of them. The OP had already apologised and explained what she meant.

BrioLover · 03/08/2024 23:08

No, no and no again. Their disorganisation (and stupidity of taking a month off in term time) is not your problem.

I'd remind them, and DH can reiterate, that you were already kind enough to help out.

Cheeky fuckers.

DreamTheMoors · 03/08/2024 23:09

My sister - before I became a mum - used me as her babysitter at least 3 times a week (and more on the weekends) when she got divorced and went through her slutty/not picky period.
I loved having my niece and didn’t think twice about it - until my sister got involved with a guy and then married him and dropped me like a bad habit.
I finally figured out that she’d been using me for free childcare for 5 years.
It hurt my feelings. But then again, she used me for free food and free lunches & dinners for 5 years too — so who’s the fool?
I am. I’m the fool.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 03/08/2024 23:09

I would plan to go away one of the weeks maybe visit your family/ camp in a field, be unavailable more often. Dh should also be clear that he is working hard to support your dc, not theirs.

BettyBardMacDonald · 03/08/2024 23:14

CatamaranViper · 03/08/2024 22:20

I see no problem with her asking, providing she has a backup plan and accepts it when you say no. I ask for help when I need it. We're always told to ask for help, don't suffer in silence etc, but it's when people demand help or refuse to accept no that it becomes cheeky and taking the piss.

No.

Putting people on the spot like this by asking is rude, rude, rude. Not sure who came up with that "it never hurts to ask" claptrap.

It's one thing to propose something mutually beneficial like trading favours. But a selfish one-sided ask unless it's a major medical emergency is just obnoxious.

oObyeOo · 03/08/2024 23:15

YAnBU… I am a teacher and used to get this all the time in the summer from local mums when our kids were younger.. it was never reciprocated funnily enough so I put my foot down.

Takenoprisoner · 03/08/2024 23:16

Well done for sticking to your guns. I would actually ignore any more messages requesting childcare. Just don't respond, there's so much power in choosing not to engage I think.

If they keep on, I would respond with, 'sorry I can't keep going through this nonsense every week, I don't have the energy' and leave it at that. It's time to get annoyed and show it. It's not like the summer holidays just crept up on them is it.

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