Feminists against sex segregation in sports

[Tandora]

AIBU to share a different perspective on a subject that seems to be almost entirely taken for granted on mumsnet? This is not something I have a definite opinion on myself (although I am against sex testing and I fully support the rights of trans women and women with differences in sex development to compete alongside other women in sporting competitions at all levels).

However I have found it really upsetting the degrading way that people have been speaking recently about top/ elite female athletes; denigrating their sporting prowess, and portraying them as weak, feeble and helpless, particularly in the wake of this boxing match controversy.

I started looking into opinions on the issue, starting with a search on “feminists against sex segregation in sport”. I came across this really interesting article.

AIBU to share?

journals.library.wustl.edu/lawreview/article/3150/galley/19983/view/

See I thought that but as it was such clever language I thought I must be wrong.

Thank you😊

Thank you.

any expert ( not a pretendy PhD one

Oh and do remind us how do you define woman/women again?

There isn't really a point to the thread though is there. Discuss if male and females should be segregated in sport or if there is a better option. Obviously yes and no there isn't.
Think OPs next thread should get tumble weed.

And women would have the opportunity to play football now if it wasnt sex segregated . .......because they wouldn't make the fucking team.

But you are also repeating those that are not personal attacks, but you just disagree with. As I said- if you don't screenshot the whole thing- then your deceit speaks volumes about you.

Smug, more like! 😏 I've made the grade as a Disapproved Woman again! That's in good company.

The thread is pointless. No engagement whatever, despite OP insisting she wants to.

With all the classification rules in the Paralympics, they still separate the sexes

Try... go on, I dare you to have a go within the posting rules, you can do it! I believe in you!

Or if you really can't how about giving answers to the bullet points one by one, I'd really enjoy that too!

Ah well, out of 298 responses
ive got 11 YANBUs 😆.
clearly not a popular proposition but im possibly not the only one

Thank you😊.

It's deliberate- he has no rational argument. It's what they do.

You can't state your beliefs without being abusive?

I confess I didn’t read the bullets because helle and I have a long history. I’ll see if I can give the other a go without breaking talking guidelines.

No I’m just not allowed to use that word apparently

Did you actually read the post?

Did you even bother? I attempted several times to explain to you and others on the thread where you simply doubled done on censuring the language used and did not engage in a way that actually sought to understand what you clearly didn’t understand.

You have posted numerous times over the past days about how these male athletes don’t even win all the time. As if that mattered in discussing competitive advantage or the need to have a protected female sports category.

Do you or don’t you understand competitive advantage and why it matters to protecting female athletes from harm, including physical harm?

And by the way, this is an integral part of discussing the merits of the topic of the article you wanted to discuss.

Not in my family. Female sports are preferred watching to the male sports and - shock, horror, hold the front page - by the men in the family as well.

Not cleverer than you- but I think OP is pretending that women not being identical to men, makes them inferior.
So- better to pit them against men and show they will lose, than allow them to just compete against each other, like men do.
Often people confuse "equal with" and "identical to". Often on purpose.

Your beliefs involve using a word so abusive that MNHQ won't let it stand?

And you still don't see the problem?

It's the logic my father used for hitting women. "They wanted equality."

I don't think even he ever expected it to become an Olympic sport, though.

And the one thing that will cause the men to switch off and stop following female sport is the inclusion of men in it, so your grand idea Tandora would not only decimate female sport but would decimate the audience for it. Female sport is watched to see females perform well not males.

He obviously never met the op...