Feminists against sex segregation in sports

[Tandora]

AIBU to share a different perspective on a subject that seems to be almost entirely taken for granted on mumsnet? This is not something I have a definite opinion on myself (although I am against sex testing and I fully support the rights of trans women and women with differences in sex development to compete alongside other women in sporting competitions at all levels).

However I have found it really upsetting the degrading way that people have been speaking recently about top/ elite female athletes; denigrating their sporting prowess, and portraying them as weak, feeble and helpless, particularly in the wake of this boxing match controversy.

I started looking into opinions on the issue, starting with a search on “feminists against sex segregation in sport”. I came across this really interesting article.

AIBU to share?

journals.library.wustl.edu/lawreview/article/3150/galley/19983/view/

@WickedSerious 👏Oh well done!

How dare you sneer at female strengths on this site?

?? I certainly never did that

GC females are the ones who have been bullied over this by the TRA/MRA mob.

If your posts are regularly being deleted it's a you problem, not an us problem. Stick to the rules of posting and you won't be deleted. Simples.

People like you are part of the problem, a big part of the problem.

I’m doing it to highlight the percentage of posts that are just nasty, gratuitous,
personal attacks.

Hang on, if I put everything offensive to women that you said in bold I’d be here all night.

I just don’t know that sex is the only or best way to do it.

Can you please, please tell us what other way there would be. I mean you're the one who is banging on about it, surely you must have some suggestion. Just say (type) it.

Are you OK? Your typing is going to pot. Have you slept since Thursday?

I just worry about the way it reinforces harmful gender stereotypes and perceptions of female inferiority.

I really don't think anyone else is worrying that segregating sports by sex is doing this.

And now we have the concern of excluding sex and gender minorities.

They aren't excluded in any way?

You ain’t no feminist, bruv 😉

People like you are part of the problem, a big part of the problem.

I'm quite relieved you are confessing to just be a troll. I had thought you meant it at first. And btw.... screenshot everything, not just random parts. You know, just honesty.

You ain’t no feminist, bruv 😉

I'm quite relieved you are confessing to just be a troll.

How else should sports be categorised?

Hair colour?

Height?

Foot size?

Right handed or left handed?

Wipe from front to back, or from back to front?

Seriously, OP, how?

@Tandora it only reinforces inferiority if you think women's sport is inferior! Why would you think that?

You don't think the belief that wearing a dress and liking pink makes one a woman perpetuates a stereotype?

And you are in favour of stratification for everything except the biggest, most comprehensive, most indisputable, most easily categorised quality of all?

It is. Have you?

I think maybe one Monster too many has been consumed.

I do think there has to be stratification for women to participate in elite sports, I just don’t know that sex is the only or best way to do it.

Hmmm. One of these sentences is not like the other.

Toilet roll over or under?... ooh controversial! 😂

I'll keep that too.

I'm quite relieved you are confessing to just be a troll

I don’t know def don’t have all the answers, but people have suggested height, weight, hormones…

one poster also brought up an interesting point about disabilities. That her son was not disabled enough for paraolympics, but too disabled for regular sport and had no opportunities. That’s a who other area I’d be really interested to learn more about and how there could be more stratification to enable inclusion of people with all diff types of abilities.

Media Studies? Golf Course Management? PPE?

I'm quite relieved you are confessing to just be a troll

Media Studies? Golf Course Management? PPE?

but people have suggested height, weight, hormones…