Michael Jackson

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Why has Michael Jackson not been cancelled?

I don’t understand why a musical has been made out of his music, and why his music is played at school discos and is still everywhere.

After I watched the documentary where the men described how he raped them, I won’t listen to his music at all, in fact, I feel a sense of disgust when it is played publicly.

I don’t understand why we seem to have cancelled everyone else except him. Is it because he died before he was officially found guilty?

The “art” books were many, many books of naked and semi naked images of children and adolescents all jumbled in with adult porn.

MJ admitting he shared a bed with “many children”.

Nice and normal behaviour.

@Mirabai @saidthebellsofstclements those videos are sickening, no matter how many times I see them everytime they pop up they make my skin crawl! No one can ever convince me that he wasn't a predator and a filthy nonce!

Same

I just don't understand how people can defend his actions!

He said he slept on the floor and Gavin and his brother took the bed in that clip. He admitted to having Macualay Culkin and his siblings stay in his bed (one a sister, for all the people saying "but why was it only boysss") and they haven't made any allegations.

Gavin later accused MJ of molesting him.

He wasn’t just admitting to the Caulkins he said “many children” and merely used the Caulkins as an example.

So you think him sleeping in a bed with the 3 Culkin siblings is normal?

No but that's not the question is it? We're talking about if he did anything to them, and so far they've said he didn't.

The fact thinks he’s entitled to sleeping in beds with other people’s kids, it’s normal, and is totally unaware of how wrong - are big waving red flags in themselves.

I think he used Macauley to show the world how harmless, pure and wholesome he was, when in reality he was a filthy nonce!

I just don't understand how people can defend his actions!
@ChishiyaBat
Nope I don't understand it either, the excuses people make are insane.
He committed his crimes in plain sight, there's not another person on earth who could go on tv and admit to loving sleepovers with children and not come to the conclusion that he was a pedophile.
It'a so damaging for victims of historical sexual abuse that people spout this nonsense so freely.

Caulkin was famous though - so MJ would be less likely to target him. And I wonder if MJ identified with him as a fellow child star.

It'a so damaging for victims of historical sexual abuse that people spout this nonsense so freely.

And that’s why I’m angry there still has been no reckoning.

Also Macauley himself admitted in an interview that his relationship with Michael was inappropriate.
Like no shit, he was a grooming piece of shit nonce!

@Mirabai but he had him in his bed and if that's your benchmark for being a nonce them you should probably disbelieve Culkin don't you think?

@ChishiyaBat I've not seen that interview, do you have a link?

With the wealth of evidence against him why do you think he wasn’t found guilty? What in your opinion went wrong with the justice system?

That’s not my benchmark, my benchmark is the boys who said they shared his bed and he sexually abused them.

YANBU, he was a paedophile. Cannot listen to him at all.

No I don't, it was "weird" the way Michael approached him was the word he used not inappropriate, I got that wrong. He still says that Michael did nothing to him and that he would speak up if he ever thought anything was wrong. It still doesn't change my opinion. I think Macauley was his cover so he could say well look I never did anything to him so how could I be a paedophile?

I've completely gone off Brad Pitt after reading so much of this stuff.

@Hairyfairy01 but you're sharing a Martin Bashir clip!!

Yes, MJ himself told the world he slept in a bed with little boys - only of a particular age range of his preference, clearly, and not little girls. That is perfectly normal behavious for a grown man to do, according to some on this thread. Oh, he had a difficult childhood, he was just a childlike man.... who grabbed his crotch and did pelvic thrusts as part of his act. Well, perhaps it's not normal... but there is no "proof" that he abused them, you say.

Was there ever proof any high profile person accused sexually abused their victims? Even the adult women who Harvey Weinstein abused had only their stories versus his, and some back-up provided by the sheer number of them. I believe if MJ was still alive those boys now adults could have got together and created a case that would have been far more damning and contained far more evidence to back them up.

There was enough circumstantial evidence gathered from the ranch to paint a very clear picture - a tonne more than in HW's case.

I won't bother listing it. It's been listed in this thread. It's been listed in some of the articles linked - that are apparently not good enough sources. Hahahaha.

Ten little boys at least have said MJ sexually abused them. People accept Saville abused his victims, but no number is enough for them to believe MJ did. It is very odd.

Almost as odd as believing a middle aged man was just being childlike having little boys over for slumber parties, in his ranch with the pornography he showed them, the pictures of naked little boys, the secret rooms, and the bell rigged to ring to warn him someone else was heading towards them. Oh, and the testimony of the abused - which is only believed when you're not a fan of the perpetrator, apparently.