to say women don't have XY chromosomes?

[taylorswift1989]

Seeing a lot of posts on social media with people admitting they were "wrong" to call Imane Khelif a man, and that they now understand "she's a woman with XY chromosomes."

Am I going insane? A person with XY chromosomes is male! (Regardless of how they identify, of course.) Why are people saying stuff that is obviously nonsensical? Are people really that ignorant of basic biological facts?

Are you aware that many of the sports at the Olympics would exclude the boxers in question from the female category? They wouldn't be able to rowing or compete in triathlon as female.

@StressedAndDepressed1 what's he holding here then? And I will keep posting this, there is also a video. He won because he cheated!

What do YOU think?

By the way, do you know how genitals are formed?

And no hijab

@taylorswift1989 I haven't read the full thread, however there is no definite evidence that she has XY chromosomes, so what I have read of this thread is moot. It isn't if there it ends up that there are XY, but currently there is no reliable proof.

I think if you want to compete in a female category and have a blood test confirming your cells have Y chromosomes then you should not have the right to withhold this information.

You shouldn't have that right the same way if you take lots of steroids you don't have the right to withhold that information.

If you do, you're cheating.

Do you think people who probably have internal testes and have the physical advantages bestowed by male puberty should compete in women's sport?

Firstly he isn't trans and secondly Iran, a conservative country, is the global leader in "sex reassignment surgery", they prefer surgical harmed men to gay men.

I think the William’s sisters are amazing and I would never characterise their performance as equivalent to a “mediocre”
or “shit man” as the poster did I was objecting to. I’m sure they’d smash 99.9% of men in a tennis match.

They were both beaten by a single man, who'd had a few beers and cigarettes and wasn't taking it particularly seriously, when they were younger. He was seeded 200 odd.

As number 50000 on the list of things Tandora cannot grasp

Whilst rummaging around in his lunchbox!

I'm sure someone else's has probably posted this but there is a condition called Swyer syndrome. It's where gonads that should have turned into testicals just don't and the person develops as a woman instead. It's extremely EXTREMELY rare. The gonads often end up being removed as well because they turn cancerous.

The person may never know that they are genetically male or would only find out at pubity.

In this case though... I think it's testing error and the person is doping with extra T or steroids.

Worth saying really frequently, @Runningupthecurtains !

These two boxers can’t compete against women in other Olympic sports.
They do not meet the criteria to compete as women in other sports
The fact that an administrative situation means they have been allowed to beat women up in public is shocking. In comparison not in sprinting, not in long distance running- but yes, welcome to women’s boxing.

I haven't read the full thread, however there is no definite evidence that she has XY chromosomes, so what I have read of this thread is moot.

It isn't moot, you just don't want to listen.

Do you have any idea how fucking AMAZING a man has to be at tennis to be seeded 200 in the world?
He beat them once when they were younger you say?
Yeh sounds like proof they are as good at tennis as a “shit”, “mediocre” man 👍🏻

It's you who is doing that. Serena has talked about not being able to beat men who are fairly low ranked in men's tennis. I think she even had a match with one of them who beat her in every set by some way.

You seem to want to avoid the reality of what being female in this world means. This doesn't help women at all.

Swyers doesn't make sense in the context.

(The IBA)...
said it wasn't testosterone that ruled them ineligible, but a "gender test" (aka a Y chromosome in there somewhere)

However they also said they had been shown to have an advantage, which hints at them also having testosterone readings - as that it what would show a biological advantage.

Looking for his passport.

It's got an 'F' on it you know.

You mean if you ignore the court of arbitration for sport?

https://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/index/

It's you who is doing that. Serena has talked about not being able to beat men who are fairly low ranked in men's tennis. I think she even had a match with one of them who beat her in every set by some way.

Tandora doesn't want to consider him mediocre because it undermines Tandora's argument

This was puzzling me, if DSD is so rare why so many athletes. Read an article in the Times which said that coaches in some African countries seek out these people to train as they have an advantage!

Yes. Your point? That women have penises, female athletes don't matter because men can beat them, understanding biological reality makes one a "sex fascist", and far too much more to list, but it's other people who can't grasp things?

I’m going to guess we have had an influx of new posters.

😂😂😂