To ask what ‘far right’ means to you?

[Rainbowsponge]

Let’s not make this a Southport thread, just a political one. I consider myself a centrist and voted Lib Dem (to get us back in EU but that’s another story).

There’s been a lot of talk of ‘far right’ on here over the last few days, but very few observations on what far right actually means. To me it means things like capital punishment, enforced religion, open state misogyny, a blanket ban on abortion, homosexuality being outlawed, that sort of thing.

To me, having justified concerns about immigration, having views on new house building, voting Conservative or disapproving of Just Stop Oil protestors doesn’t make you ‘far right’. Centre or right of centre perhaps, but not far right.

What do you think?

Absolutely. I’ve been called far right before just for having very valid concerns about immigration!

You think the women of uk face the same level of oppression as the women of Saudi?

For me it is any form of ‘othering’. Regardless of what it is, hating of any member of any group, just because they’re of that group.

How would an "ideology rooted in communism or marxism" manifest itself and in what sense is it a threat to the UK?

I'm asking because this is the kind of question I could easily answer about the far right but not the far left. Which is why I think the "far left" is a conceptual threat being pushed as a way to minimise the actual threat from the far right.

I dont support genocide. I’ve donated huge amounts of my own money to humanitarian charities supporting Palestinians. More than you I’m willing to bet.

TBH I prefer far left and far right both = idealism, ignorance and agression (obviously different types of what is ideal)
Far left and far right are both cheeks of the same arse IMO.

Did I say it was a threat to the UK?

This and just generally rather than definitions I think we’ll see growing pressures as there isn’t the ability to deal with trafficking. Well bar Aus which has put policies in place

EU, UK and US are going to struggle with increasing public discord until politicians work out how to change it

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I also didn't say that. But you know that. We are talking about the R wing, not Britain as a whole and tell me they have any respect for women apart from as belongings.

Did you read the rest of my post?

To be clear, are you saying these people are being falsely labelled as violent thugs?

I was going to repeat my chat gpt point but couldn't be bothered 😂

Yes.

These are indeed violent thugs.

You said “I said that it is equally horrible in terms of its affect”

Are you seriously saying the women of Saudi have the same level of recourse to protection as women in the uk?

While I think the UK does have a misogyny problem - as does every other society in the world - to assert that it's even remotely on the same scale as Saudi Arabia just beggars belief.

fascist.

Hag (sorry couldn’t resist!)

I think you know what is far right, but I think to summit up. In some respects, it’s orthodox extremism on the ultraconservative right maybe even you could call it in America Alt-right.
The examples of people have suggested that it’s beer drinking skinhead wearin Doc. Martins are a little bit stereotypical because that is possibly what you see from. Maybe working classes, but actually the most dangerous far right are your most intelligent people like Nigel Farage, as he knows where to dog whistle and to stay on the line that, although he insights hate he does it in a very questionable way that people don’t see that he’s doing it, and if you look in the history at people like Oswald Mosley, they were the most dangerous people because they’ve got intelligence and the foot soldiers are the people that you see on the streets. We’ve just seen in Southport or London for example .
you also asked if countries like Saudi were far right. well there is a what I described as a horseshoe and I believe that Orthodox countries of Conservative extremism like certain Islamic countries. Yes could be on that wavelength, but you would then put them as separate because the far right is an ideally of nationalism of ultraconservatism to them as I say there is a crossover, but it’s mostly based against race and religion and against minorities, whereas I would suggest that the orthodox ultraconservative is a mostly social conservative issues less about race.
I sit on the left of centre, and yes, there is absolutely nothing wrong with talking about immigration, but yesterday and the day before on social media people were frothing at the mouth because they really wanted it to be a Muslim killer of children because they don’t care about the children they don’t care about anybody being killed. They only care about trying to kick a Muslim but somebody for many of them they wouldn’t see anybody born in Wales as British if they’ve got a Rwandan parent that’s the problem that is why we know they are the far right because they are racist Islamophobic and quite horrible people

OK.
So can I infer you agree the far right are a current threat while the far left are a conceptual threat?
Just I am a bit confused why you are bringing the far left up on a thread you started about the far right

What do you think “I said that it is equally horrible in terms of its affect”
means then? Explain it to me. Because to me, it’s stating the women in the uk face equally horrible oppression to the women of Saudi, then a denial of saying that followed by a rewording of it, on repeat.

I can, yes.

Course you have, that's why you think it's antisemitic not to support a humanitarian disaster.

That makes no sense