To ask what ‘far right’ means to you?

[Rainbowsponge]

Let’s not make this a Southport thread, just a political one. I consider myself a centrist and voted Lib Dem (to get us back in EU but that’s another story).

There’s been a lot of talk of ‘far right’ on here over the last few days, but very few observations on what far right actually means. To me it means things like capital punishment, enforced religion, open state misogyny, a blanket ban on abortion, homosexuality being outlawed, that sort of thing.

To me, having justified concerns about immigration, having views on new house building, voting Conservative or disapproving of Just Stop Oil protestors doesn’t make you ‘far right’. Centre or right of centre perhaps, but not far right.

What do you think?

Can you give an example of current antisemitism by the far left.

And yours don't make any sense.
Why don't you engage with the debate rather than just post cryptic digs?

You are proving their exact point.

Do you have to be white to be far right?

No. Check Indian politics.

It's ok if you don't understand it, I wasn't addressing you.

I mean it is possible, for example, to be anti mass-immigration from a left-wing perspective. Marx disapproved of cheap foreign labour. He talks about it in Das Kapital.

And what a stable society they appear to be. Something to be envied.

That is not what I said. I said that it is equally horrible in terms of its affect, which it is on women, unless you think Stephen (wife assaulter) Yaxley-Lennon is a shining example of feminism.

For absence of doubt, Saudi is as horrible in its own way but the cultural bases of the Left and Right wings in Europe are different to those in Saudi and some other states.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67378893.amp

Clear issues with antisemitism in the far left in France.

And what a stable society they appear to be. Something to be envied.

Japan? Where the women are going on "birth strike"?

Tommy Robinson supporters, nazi sympathisers, anti semites, racists, I guess trump or Farage supporters.

Wish I knew! Suspect it’s something to do with attack the person, avoid the debate etc

Far Right also means blaming immigrants / immigration / Muslims for all your problems.

Blanket blaming “others” in that way is the same framing Nazi Germany used to justify the Kristallnacht.

And it can get in the fucking sea with Farage, Tice, Grimes, Atherton, Reform, “Robinson”, and all the other fuckwits paid by Russia to destabilise the UK.

That what you mentioned about blanket ban on abortions. People who hold this view are in the far right category. Some of these people will be all against racism, homophobia etc. But then they will come out with some right wing shite about how abortion should be completely banned and show themselves up. 🤦🏼‍♀️ 👎🏻 They might not be a racist but they’re sexist and against women.

Japan PM’s solution to dire birthrate has already been rejected by young | Japan | The Guardian

What is "the far left"?

I agree, OP.

Thinking immigration, both legal & illegal, is far too high & supporting legally enforced caps on numbers ≠ far right.
Supporting free speech, including by people you dislike who say things you disagree with ≠ far right.
Supporting much lower levels of taxation, smaller government, benefit cuts, some level of NHS privatisation ≠ far right.

Supporting racial or religious segregation or discrimination, forced repatriation of immigrants etc etc = far right.

How much do you actually care about anti Semitism @Rainbowsponge

I see. So the far left wanting to show support for Gaza is anti semitism. I imagine they support terrorism too.

You sound very close to the ‘you can’t say anything now’ brigade.

That’s what it’s not the same as, but doesn’t further, I mean ‘engage with’ ‘the debate’ . What does far right mean to you?

Not sure to be honest. Have not see it in real life...very moderate and sweet where we live, thanks God

People with ideologies rooted in communism or Marxism (to me). Jeremy Corbyn is I would say nearly far left. But not quite. Because I have nuanced thinking.

It means if you protest for innocent children who got killed for no reason then you are racist and must of course be part of the non existent edl and a violent thug.

That's me called out. Not supporting genocide makes me far right!!! Can't say anything nowadays 🙄