A woman has to box a man today at the Olympics. AIBU to be scared for her?

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Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics - BBC Sport

They are both biological males. Its to IOC, International Olympic committee. There will be a protest and i know another female Irish boxer has pulled out but surely this cant stand. The women could be seriously injured.

Because the IOC are slapping reporting restrictions on it to make it really difficult for them.

Mind you, some media brands are 100% behind men in women's competition, so they would ignore the issue anyway.

Yes, it’s not a compulsory sport, so it’s appropriate for those that want to compete, and there are women and girls who want to.

agree

I am glad this has made it out of the Feminism and Gender section. People should know about this.
I am interested if there is a single person here who can defend this. The women opponents will likely end up with a severe injury.

It's on. I'm watching it.

Watching as well

Kellie-Jay Keen streaming the fight now
https://www.youtube.com/live/_XxKhmykGnw?si=0a4y2TKnTg-51B6K

Why is it obvious Lin YuTing has XY chromosomes? She was registered female at birth, raised as a girl, has always competed in female categories and the only allegation she has XY chromosomes comes from a Russian boxing official which has no credibility since it is no longer sanctioned as a body by the IOC and the Russian state has a long history of spreading misinformation around gender.

She may have high testosterone levels. That can be caused by a variety of hormonal conditions that affect women including CAH and PCOS, but would not suggest chromosomal differences. Lin Yu Ting has never identified as either intersex or transsexual.

Even if she has high testosterone levels the IOC requires these are controlled for people to compete in the female category, i.e. she must be taking medication to keep them under control, so the fact she has once failed a testosterone test does not mean she currently has high testosterone levels giving her an unfair advantage in the female category.

The geopolitics of this are obvious - it's Russian misinformation designed to undermine the IOC because Russia cannot compete. Probably compounded by China as she is Taiwanese.

I think fear is appropriate. The female boxer could sustain life-chganing injustires. Research by the International Boxing Association shows that a right hook from a male is c 160% more powerful than a right hook from a female.

I think the women should all refuse to fight until this issue is rectified. That will get international headlines and ensure that sunlight is shed on this travesty.

Male on female violence is not a sport.

It’s not about what you ‘present’ as. They have previously been banned from the female category in world boxing, I believe, due to hormones/testosyerone/chromosome results etc upon testing. They are not female. They should not be boxing in a female category.

The answer to including intersex athletes, trans athletes etc in sport shouldn’t be to throw women’s sport under the bus to accommodate how intersex or male people feel or what they present as.

But it always, always is.

What channel

The issue is that there is just as much chance that these two male athletes have one of the medical conditions that allow these male athletes to compete with this physical advantage, ie. a Difference of Sex Development, as they have of being transgender. That information has not been released, and to be fair, it should not be.

Either way, these are male athletes. Of course, female athletes fighting female athletes is fair. Because female athletes all have comparable advantages within the female sex category range. That is how competition at this level operates.

And by 'female athlete', I mean those athletes with bodies formed around the production of large gametes, ova, regardless of whether that body produces those gametes now, in the past or in the future. To be clear further, that requires ovaries not testes, regardless of whether those testes are visible outside the body or not.

Discovery

I have it on Discovery+

I think she has walked

She’s not continuing

Fucking cheat

What's happening? Has it been stopped?

oh no..

did she start?

She stopped it and refused to congratulate him

she is crying

I'm not sure if I've misunderstood your post but (for the sake of clarity) the boxers in the OP are not fighting each other. These are 2 individual males who are each competing against an individual female in separate matches in different weight categories.

BTW "Biologically female" is the only kind of female. Males, with DSDs or not, have no place in women's sport.

Edited for clarity.

Yes she started

Fucking disgusting

What happened was it in protest or just to injury? The poor woman, I hope the world stands by her. All that training for this.. There are no words.