A woman has to box a man today at the Olympics. AIBU to be scared for her?

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Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics - BBC Sport

They are both biological males. Its to IOC, International Olympic committee. There will be a protest and i know another female Irish boxer has pulled out but surely this cant stand. The women could be seriously injured.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13697397/Boxer-Imane-Khelif-cleared-compete-Olympics-despite-deemed-biologically-male-leaves-Italian-opponent-tears-fight-abandoned.html

The mail has plenty of faults but it does at least publish what is happening.

It is fucking disgusting.

I know. Absolutely disgraceful

And for those that won't click on links.

This is the headline

Female boxer yells 'this is unjust' and falls to her knees in tears as she quits fight against 'biologically male' Olympic opponent Imane Khelif after just 46 SECONDS following two powerful punches

I am so angry

For the avoidance of doubt, this is the boxer:

The reason why these boxers have F in their passports doesn’t matter. Discussions about DSDs etc are side tracks. The IBA performed medical testing and determined that they were ineligible to fight in the female category and that they had an unfair advantage. www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023/ . They are biological men. They’ve known this for a while now.

The fact these men still want to fight women is the epitome of male entitlement, and is as much proof of their maleness as their medical tests.

Angela Carini is a heroine, the IOC are morally bankrupt and the BBC have lost all remaining journalistic credibility.

@TheCosyNavyViper and any other doubters: HERE IS THE SCIENCE.

"...even with roughly uniform levels of fitness, the males' average power during a punching motion was 162% greater than females', with the least-powerful man still stronger than the most powerful woman. Such a distinction between genders, Carrier says, develops with time and with purpose."

Also:
"In mammals in general," says U professor David Carrier of the School of Biological Sciences, "the difference between males and females is often greatest in the structures that are used as weapons."

THIS IS WHY any situation in which an adult with XY chromosomes is fighting an adult with XX chromosomes is never a fair fight.

It's not transphobic IN THE SLIGHTEST to not want to sanction men beating women for sport.

Have you ever had your nose broken by a man punching you in the face? Because bear in mind there will be posters on here who have. Being beaten up by men- which is what is happening here- is absolutely something to be afraid of.

This is an Algerian football team's response, they're totally fine with battering women apparently.

Because they're high on their own Righteous farts, perhaps.

I guess they'd say that Carini was silly (maybe hysterical?) to be scared. And should have simply tried harder. And anyway she was far more harmful, because of WrongThink and UnkindLanguage.

Regarding the weight issue - I am 5ft 4 and I weigh about 10st 3lb. That gives me a BMI of 25 so I'm not especially overweight. I go to the gym so some of my weight is muscle. My exh was 6ft and also weighed 10st 3lb. He's very lean and a runner. He was much, much stronger than me, not to mention the height difference.

Using the 'but they're the same weight' defence is ridiculous

Tell me this doesn't look like a still from a domestic abuse scene. Sickening.

Wow, nasty weak little men

Yes!! I read the article and am
so so confused….. OP suggests both were born males but the article isn’t clear on that… if both were born male then the fight isn’t man vs female … a trans male shouldn’t be competing against biological females period!! If both these fighters are biological males then they should be competing in the male league… if both are biologically males then I can’t see the issue with them fighting each other?!….
The trans female swimmer was banned from competing against bio females so I can’t see this being as straight forward as OP’s post suggests…. ??
If it is as straight forward as both being trans females then actually both should be competing in the male only competition surely??

I feel so bloody awful for her. That was nothing but televised male on female violence. There was no sport.

I don't see any concerns, I see utter outrage at men being able to cheat and take medals away from women. Quite justified rage.

Women aren't going to stop highlighting how unfair this is because someone wimpers transphobia Breathing is bloody transphobia these days

The weight thing is absolute bollox. I outweighed my ex by several stone, I was both overweight and muscley and he is naturally very lean and slim.
I am strong for a woman, and he was so much stronger than me we were like a different species on that front. Luckily I don't know this through violence. Other women are not as lucky.

That won't be easy with the video on countless sites all over the place

It's depressingly predictable that the IOC prefer the footage not to be shown, nor that they'd rather avoid the issue than address it, but I'd expect nothing different

Oh look, another thinly veiled transphobic post on Mumsnet.
How very original.

If you gave a stuff about trans rights you'd probably not want something like this peaking people globally en masse, yeah?

Absolutely disgusting that this has been allowed to happen. The Italian fighter should be declared the winner and the male disqualified.

A longer piece on R4 now. Boxing commentator tone is what's all the fuss about.

The opening ‘ceremony’ in Paris might give you a clue.

Oh yes.

You will all have seen by now that Angela Carini from Italy had to withdraw from the fight after 46 seconds after her male opponent broke her nose ☹️

Bone density, muscle structure, reach, heart, lung, and on and on.

I read here that men punch 2.6, or 163% (I think was the quoted percentage) times harder than women.

You are just wrong.

A lot of man bashing but there's almost no men that support this, it's not men, it's the organisers/committee being woke.