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A woman has to box a man today at the Olympics. AIBU to be scared for her?

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ilovemoney · 01/08/2024 10:28

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics - BBC Sport

They are both biological males. Its to IOC, International Olympic committee. There will be a protest and i know another female Irish boxer has pulled out but surely this cant stand. The women could be seriously injured.

Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics

Two athletes are cleared to compete at the women's boxing at the Paris Olympics, having been disqualified from last year's World Championships for failing to meet eligibility criteria.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/c4ngr93d9pgo

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Gymnopedie · 01/08/2024 12:37

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:33

Do you believe someone born with a womb can be biologically male?

And do you believe that someone with XY chromosomes can be biologically female?

Longma · 01/08/2024 12:37

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Nanny0gg · 01/08/2024 12:37

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:33

Do you believe someone born with a womb can be biologically male?

Evidence of the 'womb'?

WickedSerious · 01/08/2024 12:37

EmpressOfTheThread · 01/08/2024 12:34

XY chromosomes and "elevated" levels of testosterone. Was disqualified in 2023 for these reasons, but now has passed.

It's a pre Christmas miracle!!

KohlaParasaurus · 01/08/2024 12:37

Horrific. But I expect the IOC to double down.

Helleofabore · 01/08/2024 12:37

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:24

But 'assigned female at birth'.

They are not cheats. They are also people who have spent a large proportion of their lives leading to the olympics and have been found to have a medical condition. This is not simple black and white and as I said, the language used toward them in this thread is appalling.

Yes. it IS a simple black and white situation.

Their usual regulatory body tested them for physical advantage using multiple tests. They were excluded because they had XY chromosomes AND found to have advantage over female people.

The IOC has not updated their regulations that are general regulations and not specifically for boxing.

What kind of person knows that they have an unfair advantage, and has male chromosomal profile, still competes in boxing?

You obviously choose to not call them a cheat and you are here accusing women of wrong think and not abiding by your personal observations. Great. You do you.

As far as I see it, you support an inherently misogynistic view point.

This is a very clear cut situation where the IOC has failed to protect female athletes from harm.

feellikeanalien · 01/08/2024 12:38

I haven't watched it and I won't but how did the crowd react when the winner was declared?

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:38

Kucinghitam · 01/08/2024 12:27

Just "disgusting" so far, I think. And there was something about us being misogynistic. But, I'm sure it's coming.

Oh it's definitely coming! That lot have a limited vocabulary which seems to consist of bigot & far right on repeat!

crumpet · 01/08/2024 12:38

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:33

Do you believe someone born with a womb can be biologically male?

No evidence that they were born with a womb

Nanny0gg · 01/08/2024 12:39

I wonder if these fights weren't broadcast/were boycotted by everyone if there'd be a change of mindset at the top?

Longma · 01/08/2024 12:39

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caringcarer · 01/08/2024 12:39

It's absolutely disgraceful. I hope the woman does kick him in the 🏀🏈's.

BreatheAndFocus · 01/08/2024 12:40

Cheat, cheat, cheat! This person absolutely fucking knows they’re cheating. I hope they’re sued big-time. So fucking angry that this has been allowed to happen!

EmpressOfTheThread · 01/08/2024 12:40

It is simple black and white. If you have xy chromosomes and if you have elevated testosterone, you have a physical advantage against any woman.

Helleofabore · 01/08/2024 12:40

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:33

Do you believe someone born with a womb can be biologically male?

A womb is irrelevant. That is not the body part that is relevant at all.

A male person is born with a body formed around the production of small gametes. It is also irrelevant as to whether those gametes are produced or not produced.

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:40

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:31

The boxer was born with a womb.

Where is your proof of this @teacher45646 ?@t@teacher45646? Link this evidence please.

Viviennemary · 01/08/2024 12:41

Ridiculous.

Runningupthecurtains · 01/08/2024 12:41

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:24

But 'assigned female at birth'.

They are not cheats. They are also people who have spent a large proportion of their lives leading to the olympics and have been found to have a medical condition. This is not simple black and white and as I said, the language used toward them in this thread is appalling.

It must be devastating to discover that you are male when you are registered female at birth I have a great deal of sympathy for anyone making such a shocking and upsetting discovery, my heart goes out to them. But to choose to continue in female sport once you know you are male, especially a contact sport, even more so a martial art is unacceptable.
The obscuration of the truth by the IOC is beyond shocking. They know these boxers have male advantage but they allowed them into the ring with women. The blood is literally on their hands.

EmpressOfTheThread · 01/08/2024 12:41

feellikeanalien · 01/08/2024 12:38

I haven't watched it and I won't but how did the crowd react when the winner was declared?

Cheers of course, but the camera focused on the woman, on her knees weeping.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 01/08/2024 12:41

It’s fucking disgusting

Helleofabore · 01/08/2024 12:42

littlbrowndog · 01/08/2024 12:33

A boxer previously banned from fighting women as he had xy chromosomes was sanctioned by the IOC to hit a woman boxer on live tv and break her nose in 46 seconds

This.

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 12:42

EmpressOfTheThread · 01/08/2024 12:41

Cheers of course, but the camera focused on the woman, on her knees weeping.

With her nose broken apparently.

Legalised violence of men on women. I actually feel sick.

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:43

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:33

Do you believe someone born with a womb can be biologically male?

Link the evidence you have to prove the Algerian boxer was born with a womb!!

The usual shite from you lot making wild statements with no factual evidence to back up your claims. Link it!

Viviennemary · 01/08/2024 12:44

If somebody is born inter sex that is a completely different issue from men 'transitioning' into women.

Houseplanter · 01/08/2024 12:44

The match lasted 46 seconds..

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