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A woman has to box a man today at the Olympics. AIBU to be scared for her?

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ilovemoney · 01/08/2024 10:28

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics - BBC Sport

They are both biological males. Its to IOC, International Olympic committee. There will be a protest and i know another female Irish boxer has pulled out but surely this cant stand. The women could be seriously injured.

Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics

Two athletes are cleared to compete at the women's boxing at the Paris Olympics, having been disqualified from last year's World Championships for failing to meet eligibility criteria.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/c4ngr93d9pgo

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Legendairy · 01/08/2024 12:24

urghbrotherurgh · 01/08/2024 12:21

F*ck. abandoned after 46 seconds as he broke her nose!

This is awful, absolutely sickening

Yahoo968 · 01/08/2024 12:24

If this happened in normal life he would be jailed for assault.
Disgusting that the Olympics are allowing this to take place.
I bet no news channel will show this crime against a female.

Nanny0gg · 01/08/2024 12:25

NotBadConsidering · 01/08/2024 11:53

Yes I know he’s not female. But there is not information about whether he has a DSD or is just a man claiming to be female for the sake of it.

Does it matter?

He's not a woman

Naunet · 01/08/2024 12:25

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:19

Didn't both of these fighters appear to be female at birth? These aren't trans women. The language used in this thread about them is pretty disgusting.

No, where did you get that from?

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 12:25

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:24

But 'assigned female at birth'.

They are not cheats. They are also people who have spent a large proportion of their lives leading to the olympics and have been found to have a medical condition. This is not simple black and white and as I said, the language used toward them in this thread is appalling.

They are cheats. They know they are men. They didn't appeal the IBA ruling that disqualified them last year.

Kucinghitam · 01/08/2024 12:25

I spoke too soon, The Righteous have arrived to scold all the Bad People because using Non-Approved Unkind Language is, on The Right Side of History, much much worse than a male person breaking a female person's nose with the blessing of the IOC and the collusion of the media.

WickedSerious · 01/08/2024 12:25

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:24

But 'assigned female at birth'.

They are not cheats. They are also people who have spent a large proportion of their lives leading to the olympics and have been found to have a medical condition. This is not simple black and white and as I said, the language used toward them in this thread is appalling.

They're cheats and they're liars.

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:25

elgreco · 01/08/2024 12:24

It's absolutely fucking disgraceful.

Men beating women is now officially sanctioned.

They can get a medal for it now.

Breaking a women's nose en route to the podium..

Throckmorton · 01/08/2024 12:26

Absolute fucking bastards. The IOC, the male boxers, anyone who supports this. Angela Carini is a hero and a champion

crumpet · 01/08/2024 12:26

RogerApGwilliam · 01/08/2024 12:18

Has this knocked Angela out now, or is it a group stage with other matches?

She’s out. Her next chance is in 4 years time. Kelife move on to the quarter finals

RogerApGwilliam · 01/08/2024 12:26

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:19

Didn't both of these fighters appear to be female at birth? These aren't trans women. The language used in this thread about them is pretty disgusting.

They're people who know full well they've got Y chromosomes choosing to fight women anyway. The language used about them isn't disgusting enough, and your apologism is pathetic.

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:26

Kucinghitam · 01/08/2024 12:25

I spoke too soon, The Righteous have arrived to scold all the Bad People because using Non-Approved Unkind Language is, on The Right Side of History, much much worse than a male person breaking a female person's nose with the blessing of the IOC and the collusion of the media.

Have we been called bigots or far right yet?

Odysseywasinthemiddle · 01/08/2024 12:27

I don’t know anyone who’s actually watching the olympics this year because it’s been a shambles since the very beginning. But this takes the piss and is outrageous.

I guess the Olympics as we knew it is over!

RogerApGwilliam · 01/08/2024 12:27

crumpet · 01/08/2024 12:26

She’s out. Her next chance is in 4 years time. Kelife move on to the quarter finals

Ugh.

Anyone know if Angela is endorsing anything, or similar? I'd like to try and support her.

WickedSerious · 01/08/2024 12:27

Nanny0gg · 01/08/2024 12:25

Does it matter?

He's not a woman

Exactly,the reason he's pretending to be female is irrelevant.

Legendairy · 01/08/2024 12:27

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:24

I know you are supportive. However hard it is for trans athletes mentally imagine how awful it is for female athletes who have to deal with feelings & resentment on top on everything else.
Why should women's comfort levels & safety be compromised for mens feelings?

It shouldn't at all, women should 100% come first in this, no doubt whatsoever about that. I am just acknowledging they may be unhappy but it shouldn't change the outcome in any way. Women are made to feel like they have to accept it otherwise they are labelled transphobic, this basically happens daily on MN!

Kucinghitam · 01/08/2024 12:27

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 12:26

Have we been called bigots or far right yet?

Just "disgusting" so far, I think. And there was something about us being misogynistic. But, I'm sure it's coming.

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 12:27

Kucinghitam · 01/08/2024 12:25

I spoke too soon, The Righteous have arrived to scold all the Bad People because using Non-Approved Unkind Language is, on The Right Side of History, much much worse than a male person breaking a female person's nose with the blessing of the IOC and the collusion of the media.

2024 rules baby

Treo · 01/08/2024 12:27

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:24

But 'assigned female at birth'.

They are not cheats. They are also people who have spent a large proportion of their lives leading to the olympics and have been found to have a medical condition. This is not simple black and white and as I said, the language used toward them in this thread is appalling.

They are cheats. They're competing in women's boxing.

NotBadConsidering · 01/08/2024 12:28

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:19

Didn't both of these fighters appear to be female at birth? These aren't trans women. The language used in this thread about them is pretty disgusting.

There is no evidence they have a DSD.

There is no evidence they were “assigned female at birth” 🙄

There is nothing to say they are trans.

There is nothing to say they are or aren’t men who have just spied an opportunity.

We don’t know when their passports were changed to F, whether it was always like that or has been changed more recently.

The accuracy is important so people don’t waste time deliberating on DSDs unnecessarily, with some seeking justification.

All that matters though is they’re men. No matter what is behind it, they are not eligible for the women’s category in any shape or form.

Beth216 · 01/08/2024 12:29

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 12:19

Didn't both of these fighters appear to be female at birth? These aren't trans women. The language used in this thread about them is pretty disgusting.

They were previously banned from fighting women in the world championships because they are male as they have XY chromosomes. What they appeared at birth or whether they are trans is irrelevant to them fighting women at the olympics - because whatever the case they are biologically men.

Helleofabore · 01/08/2024 12:30

Kucinghitam · 01/08/2024 12:25

I spoke too soon, The Righteous have arrived to scold all the Bad People because using Non-Approved Unkind Language is, on The Right Side of History, much much worse than a male person breaking a female person's nose with the blessing of the IOC and the collusion of the media.

They are the usual though.

And as this is that 'Isla Bryson' moment, their arguments will be seen as being as weak as they are.

And of course, Kuc, they will not present any evidence. Because from experience, we will be assured there is evidence, but apparently those making that declaration cannot be arsed to link it up so we have to just take their word for it.

NewGreenDuck · 01/08/2024 12:30

He hit her so hard that her protective helmet flew off. From looking at the photo it's quite obvious that he has a longer reach and more muscle. She didn't stand a chance. I'm just releaved that she didn't sustain more serious injuries. This has to stop.

Sunshineandpool · 01/08/2024 12:30

ilovemoney · 01/08/2024 11:42

Fight lasted 45 seconds. Carini took two big rights from KHelif and then pulled out visibly upset and angry. fell to her knees crying. Khelif then tried to comfort her (sicko) and she did not accept this (GOOD FOR HER).

I am so glad its over, she is safe that's the main thing.

What an obscene shit show.

I'm glad she is ok, but feel for her so much. It really is appalling.

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