A woman has to box a man today at the Olympics. AIBU to be scared for her?

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They are both biological males. Its to IOC, International Olympic committee. There will be a protest and i know another female Irish boxer has pulled out but surely this cant stand. The women could be seriously injured.

And let’s not forget, we have a transman also in the womens boxing. TRAs are utter hypocrites.

Has this knocked Angela out now, or is it a group stage with other matches?

Didn't both of these fighters appear to be female at birth? These aren't trans women. The language used in this thread about them is pretty disgusting.

Well PP said ‘While ever the biological women allow it, then it will continue unfortunately.’

And you replied that you had an issue with it because it implied that women were the problem. You didn’t use the words ‘victim blaming’, but that’s what victim blaming is.

And yet, disregarding the needs of female people and prioritising a sub group of male people for their emotional needs such as you are advocating for is the very definition of sexism and misogyny.

It is very misogynistic to elevate the desires of any male person above the safety needs of female people. Well done for recognising it. .. oh wait....

Not RTFT I have a horrible feeling the DSD competitors will throw the match and lose to the women to "prove" that there is no issue.

They're both blokes.

Yet again the women have to give their years of training and the opportunity they've been working for because Men.

Guardian has a mealy mouthed commentary on this. Pathetic

Its disgusting that this has been allowed. These Olympic games have been awful. They have men boxing women and a convicted child rapist competing in volleyball.

My post is clearly in support of female athletes, is IS mentally hard for transgender athletes however than doesn't mean they should be able to compete in women's sports if they are biologically male. They may find that decision difficult but tough shit. I just can't comprehend how anyone has ever agreed to them being allowed.

F*ck. abandoned after 46 seconds as he broke her nose!

They are XY

They are men

Calling a man a man is 'pretty disgusting'?

Disgraceful

It's sanctioned assault

In their report the Daily Mail keep referring to the Algerian as "she" yet saying there is controversy about their sex.

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You don't think man beating up woman in the name of sport is what's actually disgusting? You're that captured?

The fact remains that these male athletes are not female athletes.

If the regulatory board has conducted testing and found advantage based on multiple tests and parameters, as the IBA has stated they have, whether these male athletes 'appeared to be female at birth' is, to be blunt, irrelevant. Many people have to deal with finding out they are not eligible to compete in a protected category that they wanted to compete in. Their back story is irrelevant to the outcome.

For one if I was competing I would be scared to speak out too loudly for fear of backlash (being called transphobic etc) and that ruining my career.
I also would feel I couldn’t pull out and take a stand without risking my career and everything I had worked hard for.
but I would be absolutely terrified of fighting someone who was born biologically male- it’s not a fair fight.

realistically I feel that the women competing are stuck between a rock and a hard place, it’s up to others to put a stop to this not the poor women competing.

If your main concern about what just happened is whether it's not kind to call a man a man, you just enabled the battering and injury of that woman.

Someone with XY chromosomes is a man. How they feel about their material reality becomes absolutely irrelevant when they want to be enabled to injure women on live tv.

But 'assigned female at birth'.

They are not cheats. They are also people who have spent a large proportion of their lives leading to the olympics and have been found to have a medical condition. This is not simple black and white and as I said, the language used toward them in this thread is appalling.

Because it is not as simple as women 'standing up against it'. To decide not to compete would come with heavy consequences for those women. They will have considered it very carefully. It doesn't make them wrong for deciding to compete anyway and we should not judge them for doing so.

The corrupt institutions that allow and support this to happen are reprehensible.

They have to as per the reporting guidelines.

Thats another battle we have to fight. If the press can't actually report accurately we cannot communicate clearly

It's absolutely fucking disgraceful.

Men beating women is now officially sanctioned.

They can get a medal for it now.

I know you are supportive. However hard it is for trans athletes mentally imagine how awful it is for female athletes who have to deal with feelings & resentment on top on everything else.
Why should women's comfort levels & safety be compromised for mens feelings?