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no not have pepper in the house?

368 replies

bluecomputerscreen · 31/07/2024 17:45

I just don't use it in cooking (use many other spices and herbs though).
I threw out a quite dusty packet 10years out of date recently.

relative is visiting and has offered to cook and asked for the pepper.

aibu not to buy any?

what are the bets that my relative will buy us a pepper shaker?

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/07/2024 21:42

quietdays · 31/07/2024 21:09

Still, you won’t become sick from eating it. So it is not a fair comparison. It’s a dislike, as you say yourself.

Is there such a great difference between "become sick" and "be sick"? The latter is certainly possible.

And in any case, why is feeding me something I dislike to be seen as a sign of merit? Let her add pepper to her own food and leave mine free of the stuff. That is hardly creating a major difficulty for her.

GinAndBeerIt · 31/07/2024 21:47

RampantIvy · 31/07/2024 18:53

You must eat a very bland diet. Do you never eat out or have a takeaway?

Yes to both, but cooking at home is usually meat and veg, which is unseasoned.

Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream · 31/07/2024 21:57

Gosh.. I would almost always season meat, fish, potatoes, veggies with salt and pepper! Other herbs / spices too of course. Can’t imagine not having both in the kitchen and at the table.. I mean each to their own, and I wouldn’t force anyone to eat it, but I just thought as flavours went they were fairly ubiquitous.

Differentstarts · 31/07/2024 22:08

Beebop1784 · 31/07/2024 20:44

Pizza base sauce almost always has a good deal of oregano. It sounds like you just don't know how to cook

I don't is that OK with you

quietdays · 31/07/2024 22:09

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/07/2024 21:42

Is there such a great difference between "become sick" and "be sick"? The latter is certainly possible.

And in any case, why is feeding me something I dislike to be seen as a sign of merit? Let her add pepper to her own food and leave mine free of the stuff. That is hardly creating a major difficulty for her.

If you don’t understand the difference it’s pretty bad but it’s on you

Differentstarts · 31/07/2024 22:11

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/07/2024 20:51

Two things jumped out here for me.

  1. What do you think "pizza" tastes of? Many do have herbs in the sauce anyway.
  1. I've been told by a lot of Italians that Brits overestimate how much oregano Italian food requires, so you're probably not alone.

I only had it once on top of a takeaway pizza and it's all you could taste, it completely ruined the pizza. Pizza to me is tasting the tomato puree the cheese and the toppings I don't need to taste anything else

RampantIvy · 31/07/2024 22:14

So many people over salt and that's literally all you can taste in their cooking - blerk!

Wrong @k1233. Salt often enhances the taste of food. I agree that a lot of people over salt their food, but food with no salt at all is pretty tasteless. I assume that you never eat cheese or olives or cook with soy sauce or ever have a takeaway or eat out?

Just plain meat and plain vegetables @GinAndBeerIt?

We eat a lot of vegetarian food which would be extremely dull without some kind of seasoning. Plain boiled lentils or roasted vegetables without garlic and herbs, salad with no dressing is all so joyless and unappetising.

This evening we had baked feta with thyme and red onions and a puy lentil salad dressed with mint, extra virgin olive oil and sun dried tomatoes with some fresh chopped tomatoes stirred in.

GinAndBeerIt · 31/07/2024 22:21

Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream · 31/07/2024 21:57

Gosh.. I would almost always season meat, fish, potatoes, veggies with salt and pepper! Other herbs / spices too of course. Can’t imagine not having both in the kitchen and at the table.. I mean each to their own, and I wouldn’t force anyone to eat it, but I just thought as flavours went they were fairly ubiquitous.

The flavour comes from the ( packet )sauces though, such as rahmsoße, so seasoning the actual food isn't necessary. In my kitchen anyway.

Lilacapples · 31/07/2024 22:22

user8464987632 · 31/07/2024 17:46

I think its quite unusual not to have black pepper and a grinder but I don't think anyone has used white pepper since 1988

I use it most days. I put pepper on everything and put it in swede when mashing. D

Grammarnut · 31/07/2024 22:23

hiddeneverythin · 31/07/2024 19:11

I'm like this with salt and only have it to tackle the slugs in the garden....

How can you cook without salt?

GinAndBeerIt · 31/07/2024 22:23

@RampantIvy we don't eat lentils, feta cheese, salad or roast the veg, the veg is steamed.

RampantIvy · 31/07/2024 22:25

GinAndBeerIt · 31/07/2024 22:23

@RampantIvy we don't eat lentils, feta cheese, salad or roast the veg, the veg is steamed.

Are you on a restricted diet for health reasons?

LemonLymanMember · 31/07/2024 22:29

I couldn’t love without pepper, but never have onions or salt in.

LittleYellowCloth · 31/07/2024 22:58

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/07/2024 21:31

Some one else mentioned white pepper being seen as less posh than black. I think you're both right. I recall ground white pepper being used by my middle class, but not very worldly grandmother, but my far more cosmopolitan mother used black pepper.

I suspect black pepper and peppercorns became a thing the same way and at the time olive oil started to be used generally for cooking , rather than unblocking ears.

White pepper probably got the heave ho by the Elizabeth David generation as being too parochial, too British but it's made a comeback.

I can't imagine not having black or white pepper in the house or making just about anything savoury without onions.

I suspect that white pepper was edged out because it was bought ready ground, so lost its oomph and flavour quickly. The lure of the more complex freshly ground black pepper made it de rigeur.

I was also going to mention the Elizabeth David effect!

GinAndBeerIt · 01/08/2024 01:11

@RampantIvy No, we just don't like them.
My diet isn't restricted, I eat plenty of meat, fish, veg, rice, fruit, berries etc.
Cooked unseasoned in a variety of ways.

mustardrarebit · 01/08/2024 01:30

user8464987632 · 31/07/2024 17:46

I think its quite unusual not to have black pepper and a grinder but I don't think anyone has used white pepper since 1988

White pepper is amazing for making Chinese food taste authentic. Salt and pepper (your protein of choice) is delicious and black pepper just doesn't work. I also use it when cooking for kids. They don't like black pepper "bits", but aren't aware of white pepper.

CrocsxandxSocks · 01/08/2024 01:46

I don't know why you're so bothered it doesn't really matter either or. But I put freshly milled black pepper on every meal I love it so YABU ;)

SquidGinn · 01/08/2024 01:53

bluecomputerscreen · 31/07/2024 17:45

I just don't use it in cooking (use many other spices and herbs though).
I threw out a quite dusty packet 10years out of date recently.

relative is visiting and has offered to cook and asked for the pepper.

aibu not to buy any?

what are the bets that my relative will buy us a pepper shaker?

You are bot a good cook x

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/08/2024 05:35

Differentstarts · 31/07/2024 22:11

I only had it once on top of a takeaway pizza and it's all you could taste, it completely ruined the pizza. Pizza to me is tasting the tomato puree the cheese and the toppings I don't need to taste anything else

Edited

Proper pizza has a sauce, not just tomato puree. It sounds like you've never had a really good pizza AND you had a bad one over herbed.

Differentstarts · 01/08/2024 06:45

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/08/2024 05:35

Proper pizza has a sauce, not just tomato puree. It sounds like you've never had a really good pizza AND you had a bad one over herbed.

I would imagine I have in restaurants without realising but that's not good for me I'm just as happy with a 99p frozen pizza or a dominos. I'm happy just tasting tomato cheese and pepperoni or ham and pineapple without tasting herbs and spices on everything. If I used herbs and spices I wouldn't know what to do with them so adding them to meals would mean every single meal I ate would taste exactly the same

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/08/2024 06:47

Differentstarts · 01/08/2024 06:45

I would imagine I have in restaurants without realising but that's not good for me I'm just as happy with a 99p frozen pizza or a dominos. I'm happy just tasting tomato cheese and pepperoni or ham and pineapple without tasting herbs and spices on everything. If I used herbs and spices I wouldn't know what to do with them so adding them to meals would mean every single meal I ate would taste exactly the same

I mean, as long as you're happy, then great. Each to their own.

But most recipes call for herbs and/or spices and will tell you how much to use. So all your meals wouldn't taste the same, as long as you followed instructions.

Differentstarts · 01/08/2024 06:51

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/08/2024 06:47

I mean, as long as you're happy, then great. Each to their own.

But most recipes call for herbs and/or spices and will tell you how much to use. So all your meals wouldn't taste the same, as long as you followed instructions.

Well iv recently bought a cookery book so my mind might be changed soon

Catopia · 01/08/2024 06:55

If it's literally just for the relative and you don't want to get a grinder, pick up a few free little sachets next time you go to a cafe and have them in a drawer on standby.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/08/2024 06:55

Differentstarts · 01/08/2024 06:51

Well iv recently bought a cookery book so my mind might be changed soon

The great thing about cooking is that you can adjust flavours to suit you (which is why all these people incredulous about OP disliking pepper baffle me), so if you don't like the taste of oregano, for example, you could sub it out for something like basil (depending on the recipe and what flavours match) and make it taste good for you.

Differentstarts · 01/08/2024 07:02

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/08/2024 06:55

The great thing about cooking is that you can adjust flavours to suit you (which is why all these people incredulous about OP disliking pepper baffle me), so if you don't like the taste of oregano, for example, you could sub it out for something like basil (depending on the recipe and what flavours match) and make it taste good for you.

I'm actually quite excited to experiment and try cooking some proper meals from scratch. I was never taught to cook and grew up on freezer food so this is all new to me. I'm also going to start batch cooking so we have food for days I'm working and have less time. Iv bought a few of the pinch of nom books as they seem quite basic simple for a start

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