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no not have pepper in the house?

368 replies

bluecomputerscreen · 31/07/2024 17:45

I just don't use it in cooking (use many other spices and herbs though).
I threw out a quite dusty packet 10years out of date recently.

relative is visiting and has offered to cook and asked for the pepper.

aibu not to buy any?

what are the bets that my relative will buy us a pepper shaker?

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Papyrophile · 31/07/2024 20:45

BTW, I have both black and white peppercorns in grinders.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/07/2024 20:46

Papyrophile · 31/07/2024 20:43

I can't imagine a world in which a recipe for dinner doesn't start: First dice an onion. Literally, six days a week, I start dinner by dicing an onion.

You might need to look at other recipes. I enjoy a recipe with a decent base, which can often include onions. But it doesn't have to.

In fact, if you watched Jamie O during lockdown, he often uses leeks instead as Jools really hates onions.

That's the beauty of cooking. You don't have to have the flavours you dislike.

Itssamemario · 31/07/2024 20:47

I'm unreasonably incredulous at the thought of no pepper, no salt, no sugar, no herbs, no spices, no onions, no garlic households.

I'll light a candle tonight for those poor kitchens unable to fulfil thier destiny 🙏

Anonymouseposter · 31/07/2024 20:49

I think it's tight fisted and awkward not to buy something as cheap as pepper if a guest wants it. I also think its tight fisted not to have a few teabags and a bit of sugar available. I never drink tea but I have some for visitors. Very petty to actually make a mumsnet thread out of it.

RampantIvy · 31/07/2024 20:50

Itssamemario · 31/07/2024 20:47

I'm unreasonably incredulous at the thought of no pepper, no salt, no sugar, no herbs, no spices, no onions, no garlic households.

I'll light a candle tonight for those poor kitchens unable to fulfil thier destiny 🙏

Same here. Eating at those posters houses sounds like a joyless affair.

Although I also eat plain food I would get bored if I couldn't ring the changes with something more flavourful.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/07/2024 20:51

Differentstarts · 31/07/2024 20:02

The fact you said fragrant put me right of I don't want my food to taste fragrant. I don't like Indian food either. I'd be fuming if someone put oregano on my pizza, I want to taste the pizza if I wanted to taste oregano I eat oregano

Two things jumped out here for me.

  1. What do you think "pizza" tastes of? Many do have herbs in the sauce anyway.
  1. I've been told by a lot of Italians that Brits overestimate how much oregano Italian food requires, so you're probably not alone.
MangoMadness999 · 31/07/2024 20:55

onwardandupwards · 31/07/2024 17:53

We don't have pepper either, no one likes it. We don't even have any herbs or spices at all. Garlic salt is as good as it gets 😂

I cannot imagine eating without seasoning

RampantIvy · 31/07/2024 20:56

I've been told by a lot of Italians that Brits overestimate how much oregano Italian food requires, so you're probably not alone

I think pizzas in an Itaian restaurant taste more strongly of oregano than any we make because the herb itself has more taste. It will be fresher and not have sat on a supermarket shelf for ages.

I brought some oregano back from a recent holiday in Greece as it has more flavour than anything I can buy here.

VividQuoter · 31/07/2024 20:57

salt, pepper, oil and sugar. Have these always , may be flour also

user1471556818 · 31/07/2024 20:58

Hate pepper never use it in cooking or applying to food.just yuke dh loves the ruddy stuff 🙄. We have a pepper mill I've never filled it

RainintheDesert · 31/07/2024 21:01

My senior aged mum is a very plain cook. She never has it in because she says she doesn't use it. I put it in everything, with a pinch of salt. Each to their own.

blacktreacles · 31/07/2024 21:05

let me get this straight
-you don’t own a pepper grinder or keep black pepper in the house
-you also, won’t buy a grinder or keep black pepper in the house.
-you made this decision before writing the post so honestly, does this really warrant a post or are you just bored?

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 31/07/2024 21:07

I don’t add salt or pepper to any food so I don’t have it in the house. Always get mentioned when the family come round for fish and chips!

quietdays · 31/07/2024 21:09

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/07/2024 20:33

I can, and I did. I prefer to be able to eat a meal if it has been cooked for me in my own house, and if it has pepper in it then I will have to go and boil an egg for myself unless I want to feel sick for the rest of the evening.

There is something hideously controlling about anyone who cooks for their host without consulting his or her preferences. "You will eat this and pretend to like it so you don't seem rude" seems pretty rude on the part of the person doing the cooking, to me.

Similarly I have a friend who dislikes onions, so I don't cook a dish with onions in it if he is coming for a meal. Isn't giving people what they like to eat rather than something they dislike just basic politeness?

Edited

Still, you won’t become sick from eating it. So it is not a fair comparison. It’s a dislike, as you say yourself.

quietdays · 31/07/2024 21:09

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 31/07/2024 21:07

I don’t add salt or pepper to any food so I don’t have it in the house. Always get mentioned when the family come round for fish and chips!

No shit.

Tezza1 · 31/07/2024 21:11

@yeesh "Black pepper goes in everything surely? I don’t know anyone that wouldn’t have it"

Allergy testing has shown I am allergic to black pepper. Interestingly, not to white pepper. I don't keep it in the house.

OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 31/07/2024 21:15

user8464987632 · 31/07/2024 17:46

I think its quite unusual not to have black pepper and a grinder but I don't think anyone has used white pepper since 1988

I use finely-ground white pepper as my ASD child likes the taste of pepper but panics if there are black flecks in the food.

Fink · 31/07/2024 21:15

Pluvia · 31/07/2024 18:32

I think you're confusing chilli or cayenne or hot paprika or fresh chillis with what most of us use at most meals — which is black or white or coloured small peppercorns either ground or ground in a grinder at the table. Ground pepper doesn't make food particularly spicy, but it does give a gentle warm flavour that enhances most things.

No pepper, no onions, no garlic... I want to cry.

No, I understand what black and white pepper are and I find them both intolerably strong. I can eat paprika, except the extra-strong stuff. I love onions and garlic, I put them in pretty much everything, and I use lots of herbs.

guessmyage11 · 31/07/2024 21:15

Pepper is horrible I don't blame you x

henlake7 · 31/07/2024 21:19

Nope, I wouldn't facilitate the cooking of a peppery meal I had to eat....they could bring their own pepper!
But then I wouldn't be having a friend or relative round who didn't already know I was going to be painfully honest about everything (I've always lacked any kind of filter).

I only have salt and sugar in as I make bread, def no pepper.
I do cook with other spices though and I buy tea bags for others even though I hate tea.....just don't make me eat pepper!

leeverarch · 31/07/2024 21:19

I quite like white pepper on cauliflower.

k1233 · 31/07/2024 21:20

I despise the taste of salt but have it in the house for visitors. So many people over salt and that's literally all you can taste in their cooking - blerk!

Pepper - yum on certain things. Significantly better than salt.

Sattareh · 31/07/2024 21:20

I also detest oregano. I think it’s one of those things like coriander, if you hate it it is super overpowering.

SparrowNest15 · 31/07/2024 21:25

I have never bought pepper. I hate it .

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/07/2024 21:31

Cactiverde · 31/07/2024 19:53

Oh we use ground pepper in everything! I actually prefer white pepper but it seems so old school, I don't know why? Can't imagine cooking a spagbol and not grinding in a good whack of pepper. I don't think it makes it spicy, otherwise my "the toothpaste is spicy" kids wouldn't eat it.

Some one else mentioned white pepper being seen as less posh than black. I think you're both right. I recall ground white pepper being used by my middle class, but not very worldly grandmother, but my far more cosmopolitan mother used black pepper.

I suspect black pepper and peppercorns became a thing the same way and at the time olive oil started to be used generally for cooking , rather than unblocking ears.

White pepper probably got the heave ho by the Elizabeth David generation as being too parochial, too British but it's made a comeback.

I can't imagine not having black or white pepper in the house or making just about anything savoury without onions.

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