Daily mail article, integration has failed in Germany. Aibu to agree with article?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687565/Children-radicalised-mosques-11-knives-crime-verdict-German-child-refugee-charity-integration-failed-asylum-seekers.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=

Aibu to agree to an extent?

Well you got your list, your welcome!

@Bushmillsbabe it's quite common and also common for community leaders to knowingly or unknowingly contribute to a two tiered system in the UK.
Eg a girl in papers years ago was suffering abuse, she eventually bravely ran away, the police spoke to a community elder and she went back and was abused possibly killed I can't remember.

It's very important to help women in communities where they may feel trapped and obligated, don't speak English, don't know their rights to support them. But unfortunately this can only come from within the community.
I know there are lots of charities trying to help.

So, provide me with this list of places where, if you moved to them, you’d be unable to freely practice Christianity.

And are you seriously suggesting that because Catholics in Mexico are at risk of drug crime, we should ban Muslims from worship in the U.K. or Germany? How about Hindus and Jews? How is that logical?

@Saschka I've glanced at that list.

Saudi amazingly has 2 million Christians. The risk there is from extreme Islam.
Clans (whatever that is)

I am now convinced that the purpose of this thread and so many like it is to be as exhausting as possible so that The Left gradually give up the will to fight for a just world. Spoiler: we won’t give up.

If I moved to many countries my religion would not be accepted, I could be persecuted & I definitely would not be able to practice my Christianity or access a church

I shouldn't bite but I can't help it. OP you've provided a list of the top 50 countries where Christians are most at risk of persecution (out of the 150 that organization surveys). Apart from the fact that this is a ranking, and doesn't mean a Christian is actually at any material risk in country (and most definitely doesn't mean a Christian can't practice or access a church), this doesn't support the statement that you have made unless you converted from Islam - for the majority of the countries which are listed as 'extreme' the risk to Christians isn't because they're Christian, but because they've converted from Islam. Did you convert or do you actually have any source that supports your actual statement?

In a lot of countries there are militant groups and terrorist organizations that specifically target people different to them and yes, with Islamist groups, this can be Christians. Are you seriously suggesting that because extremist groups (the same groups that refugees themselves are often running from) don't accept something, we shouldn't either?

As a general comment, given how many refugees non-European countries like Lebanon and Jordan take in, to suggest Germany (or the UK) is overloaded is laughable in my view.

Not wanting to enter this debate but there has been a lot of reporting this year about Christians being the most persecuted group world wide. The evidence is from the House of Commons Library
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2024-0017/

At some point politicians will notice enough of this tension and think about what to do. I’m
not sure just dismissal will work out well

I'm not suggesting they shouldn't but as a Christian I want the liberty of practising my catholicism anywhere without fear of persecution. I'd like those counteries to build me a church if there was none in the locality.

Quite. Even in the most repressive countries, the issue is generally persecution of apostates (or supposed apostates) and expats are generally left alone to do whatever they want religion-wise.

And none of that has any bearing on whether Muslims should be “allowed” to practice Islam in the U.K, which apparently OP doesn’t agree with.

The Olympic opening ceremony was evidence of this.

There are also over 70 countries where it is illegal to be gay, and where being gay can land you in prison or with a death sentence. By your logic, those countries are also failing. Yes, I know this is a tangent - but sauce for the goose, eh?

A lot of problems with asylum seekers would be resolved by allowing them to work. We have labour shortages in many areas of Europe. It's extremely shortsighted not to see the opportunity here - and it would absolutely improve integration if you give people a stake in the country they have come to.

The Daily Mail and its readership would oppose this.

Why would a state be building you a church? Do you think churches in the UK are built by the government 🤣

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

How is that logical?
None of this is logical.
There are countries where you are at risk for practicing Christianity, North Korea is the worst, there would also be a whole raft of other human rights issues in these countries too and many being persecuted would flee and look for asylum in safe countries, but I have no idea why the op is using that as a reason to back up why integration in Germany is failing? They also said open drug use and a failing education system were examples but hasn't quite joined up the dots as to why.

https://adfinternational.org/commentary/nigeria-most-dangerous-country-christians

Also a quick Google provides many articles of how Christians are persecuted in Nigeria. That is why many Nigerians need to seek asylum. It is simply not safe for them to remain as they are Christians.

These are also the problems I found with lack of integration. I worked in a very diverse area where there were generations of poverty. Women in particular were very badly effected. Due to cultural norms they didn't learn English and therefore could not live independently. They brought their children to interpret for them and could not navigate any aspect of life such as filling out forms, speaking to a Dr or worst, getting help for domestic abuse.

The victims of abuse did not want to approach culturally specific organisations because they were afraid of it getting back to their families and they were completely trapped. They could not get a job because they couldn't speak English, they had no idea of their rights and had nowhere to go.

Of course you won’t give up. Some would say you live in fantasy land but carry on while you can.

Muslims don't expect the UK to build their mosques for them, why would you expect your chosen country to build you a church?
You should expect them to allow you to build your church as is allowed by our government here in the UK to Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and those of other religions.

And you won't silence debate either!!

If you are unable to produce the examples you should probably retract the accusation.

Build your own church!!! The government doesn't build any places of worship.

Religious persecution is one of the reasons why people flee and look for asylum elsewhere. If you want to emigrate to a country that you knowingly would persecute you that's on you

Many people are now talking about the problems of mass immigration, despite the slurs hurled at them to get them to shut up. (If we'd been able to have a proper conversation about it ten years ago, it's unlikely we'd have voted ourselves out of the EU.)

Why don't you change your thread title to global persecution of Christians because none of this has anything to do with your original post or thread title

@Dulra
I think it's obvious as to what eh