To not want to see t*ts on the beach??!

[TittiesOutPutThemBack]

Just that really!

on holiday at the mo and I cant even count the number of times I have seen topless women sunbathing at the beach… next to kids!…on non-nudist beach!

I really don’t want to see titties out in the middle of the day

on top of that I don’t fancy my teenage boys or even my DH having a look at them either

its obvious they’re coming from certain European countries ! Do they have no sense of what’s right or wrong ?

AIBU?

And I bet you’d all be ok with your 17yo taking boobs out in front of family or friends in a holiday

Of course I would. As a matter of fact I have been sunbathing topless at the beach from time to time for my whole life (including this morning). And if my daughters did so too that would be fine by me.

I mean, if you can’t beat them, join them

Are there men without shirts? Are you upset about them?

we can’t hold men and women to different standards, even if we have been conditioned by society to do so.

The harassment they‘d have to deal with might be a key factor. Or are you genuinely trying to pretend that this wouldn’t be an issue?

Most people luckily don’t go to Sainsbury’s in their swimwear. So how is that imaginary scenario even relevant? Or even remotely comparable?

Mixed sex socialising is less acceptable? That's an interesting observation and one I haven't heard before.

Did you mean aster*sks?

OP doesn't want to see tits so has censored her "i"s

Oh well that proves it then.

I was sunbathing topless on family holidays at 16. My mum did it and most other women at the beach did it and I didn’t want any tan lines. It’s a complete non issue.

There is a feeling of freedom naked swimming can bring. Some people just really don't like having wet textiles on them. Neither of that is about sexuality. It doesn't mean other people can't have a kick, just that it isn't the only explanation.

I am not personally keen on bigger naturist areas, thought as I am getting older I can imagine using them abroad, but finding a secluded spot feels good.

Have you not been on a European hot/beach holiday before OP? This is very normal - including some British people - I’ve seen it pk holidays since 1980s up to this year. I’ve also seen pics of my mum doing it in the 70s. It’s not for me but also doesn’t bother me. I find it more odd when people walk around town/supermarket just in their swimwear

Thanks. I'm not surprised that it's somewhere like there or Spanish speaking islands in either the Med or the Atlantic.

Last time I was in a place with a Greek culture etc was Corfu in 1982. I think, though I spent most of the time laid up with a tummy upset, that women, this was definitely an 18-30 place, were asked to keep their boobs fettered out of sensitivity to local culture.

Probably not the case now though.

I'm very much in the camp that says exposed boobs are part of holiday life and that if your'e bothered you own the problem. Perhaps your DH could have a word with his sons about it?

I do have a vague memory of being around 15/16 on the French Med coast, not the posh bit!, and being somewhat aroused French lassies of similar age skimpy bathing suits.

Scandinavian people generally fall in line in Britain and don’t force everyone to eat cinnamon buns or get their tits out.

I’d welcome being forced to eat cinnamon buns tbf

Why such hatred of women's bodies?

Yes, absolutely. Because if I was worried about her uncle being sexually attracted to her, that’s a completely different issue. A nipple wouldn’t suddenly create that problem.

This sums it up perfectly.

There's this weird universe feminists seem to inhibit where sexuality doesn't exist. Nudity has no sexual element or pull, genitals are just for peeing, breasts are just another body part like ears etc.

Of course if men no more than glance at a semi-nude woman, especially an attractive one, they're pervs. Not simply men who are biologically wired that way with every natural instinct telling them to do so.

Back in the real world though, sexuality is a thing. Males are biologically wired to impregnate as many females as possible, which in practice means where there is naked flesh, men will at least steal glances. Amd some body parts have dual purposes, one of those being sexual attraction.

We can and should teach men to behave respectfully towards women, but let's not pretend sexuality and desire doesn't exist.

@Beljin

Men and women are sexual beings and I'm sure both steal glances at each other. What's your point?

"as I said they can do whatever they want but in a separate area!"

Actually, there is a separate area of the planet reserved for those who do not want to see relaxed, mature people sunbathing topless (and doing lots of other perfectly natural things). It is conveniently close to most of the UK.

Sure there can be other causes for sexual arousal but trying to pretend that men with semi's on naturism beaches are not aroused is stretching credibility too far.

In fact it reminds me of an article I read on naked yoga, which explained that Naked yoga is has an unusual clientele in that clothed yoga classes are heavily dominated by women, whereas naked yoga has more men that women, and the (female) yoga teachers have to try and entice women to come (perhaps calling on favours amongst friends) or the men will stop coming. In the article the teacher reported having men phoning to check women would be at the class or they would not come.
The teacher started the class by reassuring the men that if they got an erection that was just a release of energy due to the yoga, and nothing to be self-conscious about,. Yeah right.

I have a lot of self control thank you. It doesn't mean that breasts are not sexually attractive items though, which is what others are claiming!

It would make me feel violated getting my tits out and allowing men I don’t know have a good look at them…for free.

Why do you think humans have evolved to have breasts like that then?

I didn’t say that. I said erections have many causes, they aren’t always arousal. Which is a fact. Men have erections for all sorts of reasons, just because they have one doesn’t necessarily mean they’re aroused.

Same as nipples become erect for a variety of reasons. Just because my nipples are ever, it doesn’t mean I’m necessarily turned on. I might be, but I also might be cold,
have a rubbing bra, have been (non-sexually) tickled by something.

Do you tend to charge?