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To not want to see t*ts on the beach??!

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TittiesOutPutThemBack · 30/07/2024 12:34

Just that really!

on holiday at the mo and I cant even count the number of times I have seen topless women sunbathing at the beach… next to kids!…on non-nudist beach!

I really don’t want to see titties out in the middle of the day

on top of that I don’t fancy my teenage boys or even my DH having a look at them either

its obvious they’re coming from certain European countries ! Do they have no sense of what’s right or wrong ?

AIBU?

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Devonbabs · 30/07/2024 13:44

Lol! Are you afraid your DH will want some “Bittie”

taxguru · 30/07/2024 13:44

TittiesOutPutThemBack · 30/07/2024 12:56

It’s not about DH or DS as much

I don’t want to see someone’s private parts!

they might not be genitals but they’re are private!

whoever is saying this is normal and I am making it more sexualised than it should be, then apologies you’re nuts!

Go take your boobs out next time your kid has a play date … let’s see how this will go down!

Topless sunbathing has been "normal" ever since people starting go to the Med on package holidays in the 70s and 80s. If anything, there's a lot less of it these days. When I first started holidaying abroad (Malta, I think around 1980), over half the women around the pool and on the beach were topless. Probably even more the year after when I went to Gran Canaria. Have you been living under a rock?

If you don't want to see them, go to a country where they're either banned or it's less common. I was surprised when we've been to Florida and California not to see any toplessness at all. Americans don't seem to be as into it as Europeans.

Mondaysocial · 30/07/2024 13:44

IceCream889 · 30/07/2024 13:41

YABU. The men have their nipples out, so can the women. Breasts are not sexual objects, they're useful. Women have been bathing topless since the 60s, have you been hiding under a rock?

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Breasts very clearly are sexual objects. There is no need for the large, firm flesh part around our nipples (the breast). Other mammals don't really have this. We have it as it is a signal of sexual maturity. And men find signals of sexual maturity arousing, for obvious reasons.

ScruffMuffin · 30/07/2024 13:45

It's not something I would do - mainly because I'm ginger and my skin is ghostly white. I practically cover up completely on the beach (hat, wetsuit or one-piece, factor 50 and usually a towel or a T-shirt too, unless I'm in the water). Of course it's not OK for people to wander around the shops or other public places semi-naked. But lying on a beach in Cyprus?! Not something I could get excited about tbh. I have two DDs in their teens and wouldn't have strong feelings either way if they chose to sunbathe topless once they're old enough to go abroad by themselves.

I think the rest of Europe find Brits unnecessarily uptight about nudity. Genuine question... as far as sunbathing is concerned, how exactly are exposed female breasts any different to the male variety? After all, there's plenty of crossover in terms of size (plenty of guys have moobs) and nobody bats an eyelid when they expose those (and their bellies).

Starlight1979 · 30/07/2024 13:45

Halfheadhighlights · 30/07/2024 13:43

Can’t imagine how uncomfortable burnt nipples would be. It’s a no thanks for me

Put suntan lotion on them. Like you do the rest of your body.

HTH.

Usercyzabc · 30/07/2024 13:45

SanctusInDistress · 30/07/2024 13:42

I agree with the OP; you don’t see men swinging their balls around (and when they do they are a source of ridicule).

it’s a shame that the only way for women to feel ‘empowered’ is to exercise their right to show as much flesh as possible.

Empowerment. Eh? What?

hpsaucy · 30/07/2024 13:46

How can you tell someone's nationality from their tits??

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 30/07/2024 13:46

TittiesOutPutThemBack · 30/07/2024 13:33

Absolutely ZERO locals doing this !

I bet you are mistaken.

NonPlayerCharacter · 30/07/2024 13:47

Halfheadhighlights · 30/07/2024 13:43

Can’t imagine how uncomfortable burnt nipples would be. It’s a no thanks for me

Nobody's forcing you. In the meantime, sunscreen works on all parts of the body.

midgetastic · 30/07/2024 13:47

Brests clearly are sexual in British society and to try to deny this is quite strange

RedPoster · 30/07/2024 13:47

bert3400 · 30/07/2024 13:43

I live in Spain, I don't get my tits out but have no problem with women getting them out, if they so choose. I suggest you fuck off to Skegness and take your pearls with you

Come on, think of all the naughty seaside postcards in Skegness?! It’d be enough to tip this bored teenager lady over the edge

ItsAlrightDarling · 30/07/2024 13:48

midgetastic · 30/07/2024 13:47

Brests clearly are sexual in British society and to try to deny this is quite strange

So people in other countries shouldn’t sunbathe topless in case it offends visiting Brits?

JL690 · 30/07/2024 13:48

At least they'll be seeing real tits and not the manipulated images of "perfect" tits the media pushes at every opportunity.

Justgorgeous · 30/07/2024 13:48

The 1950s are calling, dear.

40somethingme · 30/07/2024 13:49

I would only be sympathetic OP if you also found men’s chest offensive.

No double standards.

Catza · 30/07/2024 13:49

midgetastic · 30/07/2024 13:47

Brests clearly are sexual in British society and to try to deny this is quite strange

You mean to say "female breasts"...
Nobody is denying that British society considers it so. But I deny the premise that this should not be challenged.

FriNightBlues · 30/07/2024 13:49

If you find topless women on the beach offensive, I’m going to assume you’ve never spent an evening in Ayia Napa.

Vettrianofan · 30/07/2024 13:49

longdistanceclaraclara · 30/07/2024 12:39

We're in Spain, have to walk past the nudist beach to get to the family beach. Half mast todgers have led
To some interesting discussions with the kids...

🤢

ElleintheWoods · 30/07/2024 13:49

Octavia64 · 30/07/2024 13:21

Look.

It's very simple.

In Britain people stick to British rules and culture about what to wear on the beach.

In Saudi Arabia people stick to Saudi rules about what to wear at the beach and swim in burkinis and cover up.

In Denmark people stick to Danish rules about what to wear at the beach and some go naked and some wear swimsuits.

If you go to Saudi and try to wear your swimsuit you will probably be arrested.
If you go to Denmark and complain about the naked people you will be laughed at or ignored.

You stick to the local rules for that place and objecting to their culture when you have chosen to go there is bloody rude.

Thank you.

I’m just tired of explaining our culture to people, even though it’s such a similar culture in many ways.

I’m Danish. While mixed public nudity isn’t extremely common in my experience, single sex nudity is really common, eg changing rooms, saunas etc.

It’s not right or wrong, but having lived in other cultures, I can see a couple of benefits:

  • Females from a young age (and males too) have seen a wide range of naked bodies of all ages. They have a better grasp of what’s ‘normal’ and better body confidence. They know that bodies in media and porn are outliers, not standard, and compare themselves less harshly
  • Because mixed nudity is also somewhat normal, eg skinny dipping with friends (most people have done it), people don’t see the opposite sex just as objects, boys know what normal naked women look like. Not every action that involves showing some skin equals sexual to them. Whereas foreign young men (well, British and American mostly) equal seeing any functional body part as being seduced

I’m still sometimes having to remind myself that I need to be more modest in Britain as so many non-sexual actions are interpreted as sexual here and mixed-sex socialising is less acceptable. And when my mum visits I need to police her as she thinks something like getting changed on the beach is ok!

Every country has their own cultural norms.

Scandinavian people generally fall in line in Britain and don’t force everyone to eat cinnamon buns or get their tits out. If it was Britain they’d be covered up if they knew what was ok and what wasn’t.

While it’s easy to judge a culture, I really wish people would give a little more thought to the background of some cultural practices. We aren’t a nation of attention seeking tit flashers, our concept of nudity is entirely different.

Seaglassandchampagne · 30/07/2024 13:50

TittiesOutPutThemBack · 30/07/2024 13:17

I get the different culture mentality but I dont have to accept it, for now they’re forcing their “culture” on me and other ethnicities that do not have to go through this

funny how I should accept this crap but they don’t realise there are diverse families around (from non European countries where this is pretty offensive) and there is absolute disrespect for any of this

as I said they can do whatever they want but in a separate area!

Don’t you understand that you are the one forcing your culture on others by expecting them to adhere to your standards even though you’re not in your own country?

There are plenty of places in the world you can travel to where it is not the custom to go topless at the beach. I suggest you visit one of those next time you want to go abroad, instead of visiting somewhere where it’s the norm and then throwing a fit because you’re learning for the first time in your life that not everyone on the planet has the same puritan obsession with sexualising boobs as you do.

KarateSchnitzel · 30/07/2024 13:50

I feel sorry for your family. Imagine being in Cyprus and getting irate about something like this. And to add to the insult, you want to assist the patriarchy by further restricting the female ability to choose what they want to wear and where, when men can swarm around topless whenever they want. I bet you're a right barrell of laughs. Maybe go get yourself a cocktail and enjoy your time abroad? Also, have a think about teaching your kids that the female anatomy is not for people to ogle but that women may wish to not want to have tan lines after sunbathing, and that's OK!

RedPoster · 30/07/2024 13:50

midgetastic · 30/07/2024 13:47

Brests clearly are sexual in British society and to try to deny this is quite strange

They are but they don’t need to be as sexualised as they are. It becomes a major issue when women are breastfeeding. Sexualisation is so bad that people foam at the mouth if a woman feeds in public and doesn’t go to a toilet. Or if she feeds a child over the age of six months, suddenly is wrong and disgusting. And that’s because the sexualisation has gone too far. There should be a middle ground that allows women to feed their children without feeling embarrassment or being attacked, or if they are on a topless beach to be comfortable doing that without frothing at the mouth from others.

I wouldn’t go topless on a British beach as it’s not done here. But I lived in Spain and it was very common there. It’s not my place to tell any other woman what is and isn’t acceptable, nor is it the OPs nor anyone else’s in the right setting.

Phoebefail · 30/07/2024 13:50

It has been common in France for 40 years as I know of.
Bloody Brits want to control the world still.

JasmineTea11 · 30/07/2024 13:50

Are you cross because they've got nicer tits that you OP?!
Or because they're more confident and don't give a shit about who sees their tits?
Or because they are intelligent enough to know that this doesn't matter at all?

HesterRoon · 30/07/2024 13:50

Why the asterisks?

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