Manchester Airport Incident

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After seeing the new footage, I believe the officers actions were understandable.

Can you link? Viewing it closely it does appear that he stamps on the hand and doesn’t make contact with the head, however I am happy to accept I’m wrong.

The law DOESN'T work in the UK.

How difficult is it to work out that at the point the officer was kicking and stamping on the man on the ground, the police did not have to use any force to restrain him? Ditto the man on the chairs at the back, who was just sitting there with his hands up to his head in a surrender gesture. He was simply complying with the officer's demand that he lie down when he was gratuitously kicked in the legs and hit on the head. None of that is justifiable.

And he definitely shouldn’t be sacked- he probably needs some counselling and further training to help him deal with situations like this. I have not an ounce of sympathy for the criminals that caused the situation- they are clearly dangerous people and if you start a fight then you should expect to get hurt!

Neither is punching a woman (or a man). He could have killed her. And she was doing her job protecting you and me.

Your first two paragraphs was how I rationalised it to my husband. The offer probably did not realize that the younger guy had been immobilised as he was the one on his back. There was not time to think so he saw him down and kicked him to get him to stay down.

A tasered suspect is not subdued and defenceless at all, they have just been stopped for a few seconds (if that) after which they will recover completely and can carry on as before. It is a chance for the police to try to get the upper hand. Action is still required.

Oh, lovely. If we are going to justify criminal assault on that basis, it's going to be anarchy out there.

I bet the will get big payouts because of this. I then hope the female police officer whose nose they broke sues them and gets every single penny off them.
The very worse people in all of this imo is the baying mob outside Manchester police station.

If one of these men had taken a firearm and fired into the crowds through either anger or not knowing how to use the firearm..... and injured/scared/killed the public then I'm sure everyone would be asking why the men weren't incapacitated

The officer would have been expected to have floored the guy in that scenario.... the public would be fuming about that instead

Police can't win

Spot on.

Years ago the police held respect, kids misbehaving or drawing themselves to the attention of the police would have a stern talking to and often a good clip around the ear for good measure.

Then they’d be hauled home much to the embarrassment of their parents for ‘bringing trouble to their door’ and have another bollocking and possibly another clip around the ear from mum and dad. Often that would be enough to stop any lawless behaviour in its tracks.

These days people know full well that the police can’t touch them so they think they’re above the law. I applaud the officers who are willing to do this job and put themselves at risk every day.

If criminals knew that they’d be at risk of a damn good hiding they might think twice. The thugs in this video wouldn’t have behaved like that in their own country (or their parents country, wherever they are from) they’d be likely to get shot.

I know it’s an unpopular view but these are the kind of people that we should be deporting (if they weren’t born in the UK of course). No messing around, you come to our country and have RESPECT and live by our rules. Break the law and you should be expected to be sent back home to where you came from. Scum.

The mother had an altercation on the plane.....her sons confronted him in a coffee shop and it kicked off between them

I do wonder why the police are armed if they are not going to use them even if just to threaten someone?

Pulling a gun on that man while someone else handcuffed him might have been better. However, in the heat of the moment, and knowing his colleagues were injured, the police officer reacted but not as he had been trained to do.

How would he have been trained to react to this then?

The police had their protection in the shape of their taser guns, their training, the availability of back-up, their rights of arrest, and the fact that those who attack them are subject to harsher sentences than those who attack other members of the public. What else do you want for them?

The officer had been attacked by the pair to the point he is thought to have briefly lost consciousness

In public....with a firearm strapped to him

Interesting. Please share examples of this.

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I agree that the two men are violent thugs and they deserve to be prosecuted and I’d be happy if they receive a custodial sentence. If those men had been hurt whilst being restrained I wouldn’t care. However, I expect the police to be held to a higher standard than criminals. Once the men were restrained, the police officer kicked then stamped on his head, that was retribution and a complete loss of control. Both the thugs and the officer will have to face what’s coming to them and thinking both parties were wrong doesn’t mean anyone’s supporting those violent men.

The officer lost it. Unprofessional. No matter how provoked they have to react without fear or favour. It's a dangerous precedent if this behaviour does not result in a disciplinary.

Society needs to have faith and confidence in the force that exists to protect us and reinforce our laws. What happened before (provoked) and what happens after (social media commentary and opinion) should not be a feature in deciding the consequences.

However, I expect the police to be held to a higher standard than criminals

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Understandable? Not in the slightest!

Absolutely!

Is this the same officer who kicked the suspect? If so, he would have had concussion while doing so.

As I said before, the worse people are the ones demonstrating in front of the police station. Shame on the lot of them. These violent young men, who left police officers in hospital with broken bones, are their heros.

I'm a nurse. Sometimes there is violence. Imagine if one of us did what this thug police officer did!!