Manchester Airport Incident

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After seeing the new footage, I believe the officers actions were understandable.

@TriesNotToBeCynical

"Actually I think it is rather common for people involved in pub fights to attack the police, especially if the police are outnumbered."

Can you not see the difference in a fight outside the dog and duck on a Friday night including assaults on police and assaulting a police officer in a high security environment such as an airport.

In most other countries he would simply have been shot.

I think the police officers actions were understandable. Yesl, of course he shouldn't have done what he did but he'd just been violently set upon by thugs (did you see the way the guy was leathering into the officer?). The officer was probably terrified, full of adrenaline and lost it momentarily. They are humans, not robots.

He’s vile

The man had already been tasered and was incapacitated so there was absolutely no need to stamp on his head. I'm unsure where such an action could actually ever be justified.

Armed police should be able to control their emotions and be capable of not lashing out in rage. It should be a real worry that this officer was not able to do so.

It’s interesting how he tried to capitalise on this so quickly. Some probably thought he had stature due to solicitor title. He really doesn’t

To be fair the instigators blamed it on racism first! Them and their lawyer said it was a racist attack. They were the first to call it.

There is a huge divide between many Muslim communities and white communities. Many of us witness this first hand in areas we live in. People do stick together, we saw this with the Romany Gypsy community recently, we see it in Muslim communities regarding the atrocities in Gaza. Incidents like this do mean that people pick a side. We have seen this all over Europe in recent years, racial tensions are rising.

Yes but it's guys like these (violent thugs) are likely to be in that tiny minority of people who have access to firearms and even more likely to be carrying a weapon.

Goodness, I didn't know about what he did to that poor woman. I did know about the campaign of intimidation of the female MP and her volunteers at the election, his joking about domestic violence and his belief that women should be kept at home because men cannot help themselves.

But let's assume he's acting in good faith here. Or not.

should the police have asked nicely if they had a knife then?

armed doesn’t just mean guns and they hadn’t been on the plane so they could have been carrying anything.

While I appreciate that police should restrain themselves, I do think that it’s unrealistic in some situations where after being violently assaulted by thugs that the police will just gently cart them off to jail.

Isn’t the point of the police to be trained in dealing with and detaining potential and actual violent criminals? Once they have been overcome, you don’t stamp them on the head, kick them and spray pepper spray in their eyes.

The media shared the full video that was shared with them initially.
The further early video is from a different source and only came to light later.
You can't blame the media when it was out on social media already.

You can blame the media. They make a big deal about fact-checking, verifying and unbiased reporting and they do not show every video that has gone viral on social media. There was some very poor and dubious decision-making here.

But those who are creating these incidents through their violent behaviour will always screech 'racism' if they can as an excuse.

This whole incident reminds so much of an interview by Denzel Washington:

This.

The police are held to a higher standard. It’s not for them to dish out punishments. If immediate punishments were correct the stamping on the second brother (the one who was sat up, with his hands up, and moving to the floor) is still unjust.

The police are chosen and employed to calm down a situation and bring order not add to the chaos and make a highly charged situation worse.

Yes, this sounds very sensible to me.

Realistically I think 'training' can only take you so far in preparing you for a real-life situation of being attacked. In a simulation you would know that you're not at risk of real harm, and the situation wouldn't escalate to serious injury or death.

That officer had been over-powered by one man, received at least 5 punches to the head, attacked from behind by another man, which only stopped because the second man was tasered. In less than one minute.

That doesn't justify his violence but I do understand why he was so riled up.

@SweetFemaleAttitude

"He failed in his duty as a police officer and I hope he is sacked, because he, like many other police officers have proven, time and time again, is not somebody I would trust to protect me."

And good luck finding police officers willing to do the job.

Reminds me of this story:

cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/woman-who-called-for-dismantling-police-now-praises-officers-after-she-was-attacked-law-enforcement-crime-criminals-carjacking-minneapolis-victims-officers-training-standards

you really think that nothing had gone on before the police got them at the pay machine ?
they were just enjoying a quiet day out when the police jumped them and forced them to try and kick the shit out of the officers ? i’d love to live through your rose tinted glasses

I thought the fight started because someone had been racist towards their mother, that's what riled them originally - their protection of their mum, I never said their mother was physically attacked

Thuggery on both sides...

You sure that's not fake news

Their own country