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Manchester Airport Incident

381 replies

Hateam · 28/07/2024 08:55

After seeing the new footage, I believe the officers actions were understandable.

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MissMoneyFairy · 28/07/2024 12:45

Allfur · 28/07/2024 12:42

I guess they were protecting their mum - they over reacted as did the police, they all have one thing in common

Did they have evidence the mum was attacked

DownNative · 28/07/2024 12:46

Their lawyer, Akhmed Yakoob, How It Started v How It's Going. 👇

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1dayatatime · 28/07/2024 12:46

@Areyoureadynow

Well if they had been shot then at least there would have been no need for the police officer to kick him in the head.

Also I believe that should apply to everyone regardless of their race, race or religion if they attack a police officer in a high security environment, creating a dangerous situation for everyone.

FishersGate · 28/07/2024 12:46

Allfur · 28/07/2024 12:42

I guess they were protecting their mum - they over reacted as did the police, they all have one thing in common

Protecting their mum from what ? One guys was at a pay machine resisting talking to officer?

AngelusBell · 28/07/2024 12:49

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 12:37

My mind is boggling at how and why those men got so violent so quickly and with clear intent to badly injure! Were they on drugs or just violent people?
I have huge sympathy for the officer and agree with pps that it was a fight or flight moment, he must have been terrified of the risk to himself, his fellow officers and the public. How could he know in that split second what the guys intention was?

I don’t think we will know the full facts until the trial, and so much of the speculation is fuelled by hatred of Muslims that I’m not reading any more of it. Some of us just want to live peacefully in a multicultural society and all this racism only perpetuates more division. We had come so far since the race riots of the early 2000s in our northern towns.

Areyoureadynow · 28/07/2024 12:49

1dayatatime · 28/07/2024 12:46

@Areyoureadynow

Well if they had been shot then at least there would have been no need for the police officer to kick him in the head.

Also I believe that should apply to everyone regardless of their race, race or religion if they attack a police officer in a high security environment, creating a dangerous situation for everyone.

Completely agree. If they are white British they should face the same consequences. Why is it though that increasingly the people causing newsworthy incidents like this are minority groups?

Think of all the terror attacks, stabbings, shootings you have seen reported on in the past few years, how many of them are white British? Very few I bet.

MissMoneyFairy · 28/07/2024 12:51

Did they or mum or any staff inform the airport police she was apparently abused, why did they get involved, they look riled up and know how to fight.

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 12:54

Areyoureadynow · 28/07/2024 12:49

Completely agree. If they are white British they should face the same consequences. Why is it though that increasingly the people causing newsworthy incidents like this are minority groups?

Think of all the terror attacks, stabbings, shootings you have seen reported on in the past few years, how many of them are white British? Very few I bet.

I mean please. British white men have been behaving like this drunk outside the pub every week for all time.

EsmaCannonball · 28/07/2024 12:57

Allfur · 28/07/2024 12:42

I guess they were protecting their mum - they over reacted as did the police, they all have one thing in common

The police hadn't touched their mother when all this began. In fact, one of the brothers seems to hit his own mother in the face.

She's definitely failed at parenting.

Areyoureadynow · 28/07/2024 12:58

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 12:54

I mean please. British white men have been behaving like this drunk outside the pub every week for all time.

I think there’s a world of difference between the level of sheer volatility and violence seen from these men than your typical scrap outside a pub.

Regardless, if it was a British white man I would also want them punished in the same way. Imprisonment for our nationals, deportation for foreigners. Why should we pay to keep them.

MissMoneyFairy · 28/07/2024 13:02

EsmaCannonball · 28/07/2024 12:57

The police hadn't touched their mother when all this began. In fact, one of the brothers seems to hit his own mother in the face.

She's definitely failed at parenting.

Looks like he elbowed her

YellowAsteroid · 28/07/2024 13:04

Nobodywouldknow · 28/07/2024 12:26

Apparently a violent bust up in Starbucks and a fight on the plane. Seeing these thugs on the video, I can absolutely believe that they were violent and aggressive to others prior to this happening.

Thanks. They sound like they need some serious punishment.

Cloudysky81 · 28/07/2024 13:05

sashh · 28/07/2024 10:59

Did the police know they were unarmed?

Police don’t know for certain that anyone is unarmed. However in the UK only a tiny percentage of the population has access to firearms, so the presumption must be made that people are unarmed unless there is evidence showing otherwise.

1dayatatime · 28/07/2024 13:08

@PennyNotWise

"I mean please. British white men have been behaving like this drunk outside the pub every week for all time."

I mean please if you cannot see the difference between assaulting a police woman in a high security environment such as an airport, breaking her nose putting her in a chokehold and a punch up outside a pub at the weekend regardless of anyone's skin colour then you are deliberately deflecting and genuinely part of the problem.

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 13:11

1dayatatime · 28/07/2024 13:08

@PennyNotWise

"I mean please. British white men have been behaving like this drunk outside the pub every week for all time."

I mean please if you cannot see the difference between assaulting a police woman in a high security environment such as an airport, breaking her nose putting her in a chokehold and a punch up outside a pub at the weekend regardless of anyone's skin colour then you are deliberately deflecting and genuinely part of the problem.

I’m making the point that it’s nothing to do with race. Geez what a racist cesspit this thread is turning into, will be pulled before long!

iamtheblcksheep · 28/07/2024 13:14

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 28/07/2024 11:25

@IMustDoMoreExercise I have been punched repeatedly. Pretty sure if I'd stamped on my ex's head I would have been arrested.

You can defend that officer all you want, still doesn't make it right. Your attitude is appalling, I'm guessing you're a police officer or related to one? Amazing how a badge boosts the ego and brings out the worst in people

Do not talk shit. You wouldn’t have been arrested and you know it.

EsmaCannonball · 28/07/2024 13:15

There are loads of horrible, violent white men in this country but the people stoking racial division around this incident initially were the ones who spread the clipped video around social media claiming 'racist police brutality,' the ones threatening to riot and solicitors talking about police attempting to 'assassinate' their client.

Just Google the man these offenders chose as their solicitor. Look into his opinions on women. Look at how he and his supporters behaved when he stood as a candidate in the recent general election. They were as bad, if not worse, than the BNP. It's a truly nasty, chauvinistic movement. Yes, BNP types will be gleeful at this incident, but it's naive to think that there are no other parties with a vested interest in stoking sectarian division here. It will be interesting to see if Labour do anything about this because it was their safe seats that were lost or threatened. They have enough of a majority now not to care but in the future they will need those constituencies.

iamtheblcksheep · 28/07/2024 13:15

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 13:11

I’m making the point that it’s nothing to do with race. Geez what a racist cesspit this thread is turning into, will be pulled before long!

Nobody mentioned race. You did. Nobody else

OneReformedCharacter · 28/07/2024 13:16

FineFettler · 28/07/2024 10:29

How difficult is it to work out that at the point the officer was kicking and stamping on the man on the ground, the police did not have to use any force to restrain him? Ditto the man on the chairs at the back, who was just sitting there with his hands up to his head in a surrender gesture. He was simply complying with the officer's demand that he lie down when he was gratuitously kicked in the legs and hit on the head. None of that is justifiable.

It’s easier to get up from kneeling than a prone position and the police had to neutralise the considerable threat posed by these low life scum bags who had been violently attacking them seconds before. A kick in the leg to force him down is ok with me if he’s not complying fast enough. They aren’t to know if someone else is going to come in to back them up are they? They need to get him on the floor and cuffed as fast as they can.

I’ll say it again - I’m ok with what the police officers did. They had to protect themselves and the general public and they did pretty well considering what they were up against.

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 13:17

iamtheblcksheep · 28/07/2024 13:15

Nobody mentioned race. You did. Nobody else

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Couldn’t be bothered to read the thread huh? Fair play there is the Daily Mail to go read

Toomanylosthours · 28/07/2024 13:20

PennyNotWise · 28/07/2024 12:37

My mind is boggling at how and why those men got so violent so quickly and with clear intent to badly injure! Were they on drugs or just violent people?
I have huge sympathy for the officer and agree with pps that it was a fight or flight moment, he must have been terrified of the risk to himself, his fellow officers and the public. How could he know in that split second what the guys intention was?

I'm gonna assume they felt 'disrespected'. You know what it's like they're around their peers and something is said they don't like and instead of shrugging it off their little brains go into over drive.... you disrespecting me innit blood! One of the problems with society, not understanding respect is earned not taken!

Tessma · 28/07/2024 13:20

he should not lose his job. I think perhaps a little bit of anger management training because his behavior was really not acceptable. However, there was extreme provocation and I understand that but he should have remained calm. I think he just needs a little bit of a little wrap on the knuckles and a bit of anger management training

1dayatatime · 28/07/2024 13:21

@PennyNotWise

"I’m making the point that it’s nothing to do with race. Geez what a racist cesspit this thread is turning into, will be pulled before long!"

Then I do not understand your point. I fully agree with you that their skin colour is completely irrelevant.

What I sought to differentiate was that there is a massive difference between a punch up outside a pub on a weekend and severely assaulting a police officer in a high security environment such as an airport involving breaking her nose and putting her in a choke hold.

My post did not reference skin colour, your post did reference skin colour "British white men have been behaving like this drunk outside the pub every week for all time".

If there is any racism it sits in your post and not mine.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 28/07/2024 13:22

1dayatatime · 28/07/2024 13:21

@PennyNotWise

"I’m making the point that it’s nothing to do with race. Geez what a racist cesspit this thread is turning into, will be pulled before long!"

Then I do not understand your point. I fully agree with you that their skin colour is completely irrelevant.

What I sought to differentiate was that there is a massive difference between a punch up outside a pub on a weekend and severely assaulting a police officer in a high security environment such as an airport involving breaking her nose and putting her in a choke hold.

My post did not reference skin colour, your post did reference skin colour "British white men have been behaving like this drunk outside the pub every week for all time".

If there is any racism it sits in your post and not mine.

Actually I think it is rather common for people involved in pub fights to attack the police, especially if the police are outnumbered.

Vic6 · 28/07/2024 13:25

Getonwitit · 28/07/2024 09:52

We all knew that these lads were trouble but the media choose to show them being battered by the police. Of course these lads kicked off first, wonder what their grandstanding gobshite of a lawyers has to say now? No doubt he will still blame the white coppers. Chancers and liars.

He’ll be thinking up shit to sling no doubt, similar to that poor teacher he lied about!