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BarcardiWithGadaffia · 26/07/2024 14:58

Rfthyhuj · 26/07/2024 13:07

Thank you. I read the judge said ‘if this had went ahead I’d have imposed the maximum sentence’ so I’m a bit confused.

The judge actually said "went ahead "?

Standards in the judiciary must be slipping

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/07/2024 14:59

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 14:53

Do you really think that JSO are wholly responsible for this, rather than the government and society that causes these sorts of lives in the first place??

I really think her misplaced direct action adversely impacted & targeted the wrong people. Eg the poor and the public
Oil companies and hedge funds were unimpacted as they have the clout and monies to buy their way way around disruption
JSO doesnt cause UK poverty,of course not BUT their misplaced actions adversely impact the poor disproportionately

123bumblebee · 26/07/2024 14:59

A good session in how actions have consequences.

User8646382 · 26/07/2024 14:59

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 14:50

Thank you for the link.

I'm confused now: her mum doesn't sound like she's moaning or complaining at all ‐!? She comes across as pragmatically accepting her daughter's fate, not making any excuses nor pleading lighter sentencing.

Oh wait, the press love to stir things like this, don't they.

You’re her, aren’t you? Cressida’s mum.

I’d bow out now if I were you, while I could still hold onto a scrap of dignity.

Comefromaway · 26/07/2024 15:00

Kai125 · 26/07/2024 14:57

I also wonder why Louise Lancaster's husband isn't getting the (deserved) vitriol too?

He made a similar statement about her missing her daughter's wedding. (Boo hoo)

He reads out her statement and she is "proud to be part of it" no apologies for the people who missed life saving treatment or missed funerals.

vm.tiktok.com/ZGeWUm9CJ/

Selfish evil people.

Tik tok algorithms I think. I've seen Cressida's mum's video multiple times, his only once. It's a bit unpredicatable.

EllenLRipley · 26/07/2024 15:01

The lack of self awareness in giving that speech tells us all we need to know about the family. Entitled over privlieged twits who think they are better than us all. Fuck off.

Bodeganights · 26/07/2024 15:02

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2024 13:34

A bit of disruption on the M25 will pale in comparison to the disruption climate change will cause in the coming years.

Not that I think JSO is going to make any difference, but they're doing what they think to be necessary to try and draw attention to the issue. I'm not saying they shouldn't face the consequences of breaking the law though.

On a side not, does anyone else think that vegans are onto a loser trying to convince us it's a healthy diet when they all look as though they've been re-animated from a mortuary slab?

I think one must be living in a cave with no outside connections at all to have heard about climate change. The problem isnt that people dont know about it, its not even that they dont care about it.

It's more, what can we really do. Our lives generally revolve around getting to work, having a decent home. These things require travelling somehow and building homes. Both things not conducive to changing climate. Both things us the gen pop can do fuck all about.

And then you'll see some hob nob or official or minister or sleb flying to faraway places, possibly in a private jet. Then you think oh it's ok for you to fly places, but I'm supposed to stay local. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Rfthyhuj · 26/07/2024 15:02

CarrieHain · 26/07/2024 13:24

I'm sure a judge would use English as we know it! 😆

You’re right. Judges speak an alien English 🙄

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 15:02

I wonder when the public will demand apologies for the lives lost due to fossil fuels.

Cattyisbatty · 26/07/2024 15:02

OneTC · 26/07/2024 11:18

eco-yob is about as express as it gets 😅

It really is!

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 15:03

123bumblebee · 26/07/2024 14:59

A good session in how actions have consequences.

Shame the oil companies don’t ever have to learn the same lesson.

SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 15:03

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 14:39

I knew I was right as soon as the mother spoke…

I’ve just ‘googled’ her, Cambridge educated (no doubt went to a private school!) and lives in mansion.

Honestly, this boils my piss, she wouldn’t have time to carry on like that if she was poor and was on the NMW!

Edited

Yes, they're bored little rich kids (and you never, never see working class kids on these protests) at loose ends wanting to be destructive, BUT, don't want to get daddy in trouble too much. Pretending to care about the environment is a better 'look' than graffiti-ing things or doing drugs.

Not one of them actually gives a flying fuck about the environment. If you questioned them, they couldn't even tell you how or where oil is made or what its used for. The environment is a cover for out of control (rich) youths. They could not care less about the environment if they tried. Especially when they're going to go on a fossil-fuelled plane (no doubt first class, knowing her family) to a destination wedding.

SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 15:05

ZoeCM · 26/07/2024 14:40

If it's true that the wedding's taking place abroad, presumably Cressida would have been horrified and refused to attend on principle, anyway? So nothing's been lost.

Her mother made some bizarre comment about "wanting to bring Cressida to life for those of you who weren't in the courtroom". It was the sort of thing someone would normally say about a murder victim, not someone who'd just been convicted of harming people.

presumably Cressida would have been horrified and refused to attend on principle, anyway?

Lol and pigs fly, and chickens grow lips.

Rfthyhuj · 26/07/2024 15:06

CautiousLurker · 26/07/2024 13:32

So? If she is neither the bride nor groom, it’s hard lines. Am sure they all appreciate her sacrifice in the name of the cause…

Convicted criminals miss weddings, graduations, births/death and christenings all the time. It’s kind of the point of imprisonment - withholding of the normal every days rights and privileges conferred within a democratic society in exchange for observing its laws and protections.

Edited

So I’m not sure why her brother’s choice or not to have an environmentally friendly wedding has anything to do with her.

SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 15:07

Lowerechelons · 26/07/2024 14:43

Does no one else feel the fact that a young woman has gone to prison for 4 years, and her mother's biggest concern is that she'll miss her brother's wedding is somewhat telling?

Not Cressida's own missed life?

I realise no one here cares about her life, but it just seems so symptomatic of a world where no matter what women do, their impact on the men in their life is what matters.

You know, that is a very interesting point, and it's very truthful.

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2024 15:07

Bodeganights · 26/07/2024 15:02

I think one must be living in a cave with no outside connections at all to have heard about climate change. The problem isnt that people dont know about it, its not even that they dont care about it.

It's more, what can we really do. Our lives generally revolve around getting to work, having a decent home. These things require travelling somehow and building homes. Both things not conducive to changing climate. Both things us the gen pop can do fuck all about.

And then you'll see some hob nob or official or minister or sleb flying to faraway places, possibly in a private jet. Then you think oh it's ok for you to fly places, but I'm supposed to stay local. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Yeh, you're not wrong. Strikes and protests tend to end up penalising the people least responsible. The buses went on strike for a full summer holiday a few years back in my area, leaving anyone without access to a car stranded in the village for 6 weeks. Elderly people, low-income families with kids, disabled people, not even able to get to the nearest supermarket. I lost all sympathy for bus drivers. Similar with JSO, they're turning the public against the whole concept of climate activism.

caringcarer · 26/07/2024 15:08

It's her own fault. She did the crime. I've no sympathy for her.

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 15:09

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 14:50

Thank you for the link.

I'm confused now: her mum doesn't sound like she's moaning or complaining at all ‐!? She comes across as pragmatically accepting her daughter's fate, not making any excuses nor pleading lighter sentencing.

Oh wait, the press love to stir things like this, don't they.

People are just parroting what they have been told by the press and focusing all their attention on this one tiny detail

How easy it is to make the public hate a woman still astounds me.

YummyPotatoBun · 26/07/2024 15:09

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 14:55

The rich and powerful love a distraction or a scapegoat don’t they.

Oil companies are rubbing their hands together with glee right now, so easy is it to pit the public against itself.

This is true, regardless of how self-centred and entitled Cressida and her family seem.

Comefromaway · 26/07/2024 15:12

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 26/07/2024 14:58

The judge actually said "went ahead "?

Standards in the judiciary must be slipping

No, the exact wording was "had the gridlock for which all five of you devoutly hoped come to pass"

MsLavender · 26/07/2024 15:12

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 14:53

Do you really think that JSO are wholly responsible for this, rather than the government and society that causes these sorts of lives in the first place??

No one has said they are wholly responsible for people living in poverty. People are, of course, equally angry (if not more so) at the government for driving people into poverty in the first place but this thread is not about that and the fact remains that they have disproportionately impacted the lives of those in poverty.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/07/2024 15:12

OMG, she was going to fly to the wedding!!

I'm surprised you're surprised, @Inastatus; scratch the surface even slightly of many of these idiots and you'll find the same - they'll flap their gums just so long as someone else is paying the price, but god forbid it should be them

My personal favourite when faced with one of them is to suggest they could forego that new phone or pair of ultra fashionable trainers and keep the older ones a bit longer in defence of the environment

The confused, thousand yard stares are wonderful ...

itsmylife7 · 26/07/2024 15:13

Is the wedding a plane ride away ?

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/07/2024 15:14

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 14:55

The rich and powerful love a distraction or a scapegoat don’t they.

Oil companies are rubbing their hands together with glee right now, so easy is it to pit the public against itself.

The public isn’t pit against itself
The majority don’t support JSO and these protests
The public aren’t vociferously fighting each other over the specifics of application of sentencing guidelines
The only pit is the one Ms Gethin et al dug for themselves, effectively alienating themselves from public

Lolaandbehold · 26/07/2024 15:15

Agree with you OP. And what an utter waste of a Cambridge education.