Cressida Gething missing bro's wedding

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AIBU to not give a shit and wish she had a much longer sentence?
Mum of jailed Just Stop Oil eco-yob moans 'she'll miss her brother's wedding' | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Fuck about & find out 🤷🏻‍♀️

I voted YABU because the mother is obviously going through a kind of grief. She's trying to humanise her daughter and get her critics to see her (and the family) as real people. In that context, the word 'moan' seems cruel.

@NotTerfNorCis Yes, not easy for the family. You don’t expect nicely educated, musical, Oxbridge daughters to end up in jail. It’ll be way out of their comfort zone ( although the brother wedding comment was a bit of a faux pas in retrospect). Not only are they having to get used to their daughter being in jail, but the (safe) path that was mapped out for Cressida has now been ruined.

Maybe that’s why she rebelled. Life was too easy and safe for her. She wanted some excitement in her life.

I can't believe her mother had the audacity to whine about her criminal daughter. Wonder what cars her parent's drive?

Peaceful protest does not mean harmful protest. JSOs protest caused many harms of many types. It’s rightfully illegal. Your stance that anyone, for any cause, can cause any amount of harm and disruption they choose, is rightfully illegal.

This does not affect anyone’s right to free speech or genuinely peaceful actions.

But the same people are condemning her for protesting, yet think it's OK to suggest throwing paint at someone's wedding. Two wrongs don't make a right and all that. It's nonsensical.

But it might stop JSO from doing this again. If one of their own gets targeted, they might think twice about blocking roads in future.

I wonder how many JSO members would continue to block an ambulance if they found out one of their own family members was inside.

There's an article in todays Sunday Times about another of the five. A Mum who wouldn't harm anyone. This is a group of people with resources and media connections, or at least access them.

Was this really the best way they had to achieve their stated aims by getting politicians to change their plans? Or was it a way to punish a mass of people who didn't sufficiently share their total commitment to the cause?

The talk of throwing paint at the wedding is because that’s precisely what Just Stop Oil protesters tried to do at a high profile society wedding in Chester.

Wow, just heard the Mum’s speech. I can see where Cressida gets arrogant sense of moral certainty from. No acknowledgement of the harm caused to others. No care or concern or compassion for those her daughter caused harm to. Just a rigid certainty that they are the good guys, fuck the people they impacted, and bad guys have done them wrong. Wow.

@slantedroof, and this is the great pity, isn't it? I suspect lots of people haven't heard of the oil licencing agreements despite regular prime time reporting on most major media channels, as part of the news for the last couple of years.

Yet, when faced with the frankly perplexing decision of a group of people to climb the M25 gantries, unfurling a banner with the apparently incoherent phrase 'Just Stop Oil'; most people don't seem to feel curious or have an impulse to Google what this could possibly be about: the JSO homepage is a very accessible, concise 3-sentence statement of what they hope to achieve. That ought to clear things up in about one minute, one would think. ("I mean, these guys clearly think it's important enough to go to quite extreme lengths, oh, and it seems to have something to do with the climate... well, that definitely concerns me and my family's future, so I'd better look it up".)

But is that not our responsibility, to find out and inform ourselves? Instead, people seem to think "Tossers ‐I'm tuning out." Like people have a sense that they can make informed judgements without actually being informed.

And how many mothers would feel protective if their daughter was imprisoned

@IllMetByMoonlight No , most people aren’t bothered about educating themselves as a result of the protests, so it proves their actions don’t work.

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Interesting article about an JSO and a journalist infiltrator. The organisation is likened to a cult in the article.

But JSO's objective is not to educate the public, so it's not "not working".

My comment was to *SlantedRoof" who said:
"They distract from the message because people are so pissed off with JSO they focus on how pissed off they are, not on the message."

I'm just pointing out that it's weird to either write something off or criticise something that one hasn't troubled oneself to find out about.

Also that it's not JSO' "fault" that people declare themselves 'put off' from engaging with the climate issue: it's likely to have an immense impact on our lives in the decades to come, surely we should be interested on these grounds alone?

This is exactly my point. If you want people to find out about your cause you have to get them on your side so they interested in finding out more.

If you piss people off, they exactly will think, as you say, ‘Tossers’ and tune out.

But your post does very much illustrates the utter arrogance of JSO. That you think they can both set themselves against the public, cause them harm and piss them off, and them think you have a right to chastise the public for not spending their time googling you. Pissing people off and then chastising them when they are pissed off for still not cooperating with you! Good God! Do you genuinely not understand that you can’t hate people into cooperating with you?

I suggest you spend a bit more time understanding basic human nature, because humans just don’t work the way you want them to. Riling against that will get you nowhere. If you want to influence people, you have to understand how to get them onside cooperative with you.

Also that it's not JSO' "fault" that people declare themselves 'put off' from engaging with the climate issue: it's likely to have an immense impact on our lives in the decades to come, surely we should be interested on these grounds alone?

It actually is when JSO are the ones creating extremely negative feelings in people around taking action to combat climate change.

Sorry, JSO doesn’t get to do this and them absolve themselves of responsibility for this.

The mums interview very much gave vibes of but but but it doesn't happen to families like ours 🥲

*But JSO's objective is not to educate the public, so it's not "not working

And my post was in reply to a pp saying JSO had worked as they reckoned people now knew about oil licenses and I, and other posters, pointed out that we still have no scoobie about oil licenses as that message had not got through from this action. Had absolutely no idea it was about this or indeed what they are.

@slantedroof I don't think JSO (or I) are chastising the public for not googling them. I just find it weird that people aren't interested in such a massive issue irrespective of whatever JSO get up to, to want to keep on top of the issues which look set to impact our lives the most: I've a couple of issues that I'm involved with because I perceive they are key issues which impact the lives of many vulnerable people, as well as being my own lived experience. During the course of my campaigning (individual, very small scale, grassroots) I come across lots of people who deliberately obstruct and demonstrably disagree with what I hope to achieve. I don't "tune out" as a result. It annoys me, but doesn't fundamentally impact how I engage with the issue.

And that bit of my post was meant for Izzynohopanda. Sorry it got confusing.

Ironically, in preventing poor little Cressie from flying to her brother's destination wedding, the judge has stopped more oil than the rest of them.

I imagine that plane will still be flying

but it will need 1 passenger less fuel.

Feeling protective is on a completely different level from giving a speech about how musically talented your daughter is (WTF did that even have to do with anything?) without expressing a word of sympathy for the woman who had her cancer treatment delayed for two months, or for the child who missed their medication, or for the man who missed his own father's funeral - all of which was thanks to Cressida and her gang.

She will be out in less than 2 years.

I was responding to someone who asked how would the protesters would act if one of their loved ones was in a held up in an ambulance - that kind of hypothetical question cuts both ways