Cressida Gething missing bro's wedding

[PeachSnake]

AIBU to not give a shit and wish she had a much longer sentence?
Mum of jailed Just Stop Oil eco-yob moans 'she'll miss her brother's wedding' | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Actually, come to think of it - shouldn't JSO deliberately target their own families' events? Blocade the traffic on their own (or their children's) wedding day, or their children's christenings? That would prove they were truly serious about the cause, and it would also get even more publicity ("bride blocks guests from attending her own wedding in climate change protest").

Absolutely. Would be great publicity for them. And of course I hope none of them are having kids/have pets seeing as we now know that this contributes to the environmental emergency.

We should find out the details of the wedding and then turn up en masse to disrupt it. Block the brides car, invade the Reception with orange paint on the cars and guests. Give them a taste of their own medicine

She expected to be given a conditional discharge, or suspended sentence. She expected, along with her co-defendants to leave court, punching the air in victory getting some great photos. What none of them ever expected was actual prison time

I really don't understand this line of thinking. How do they distract from the message? How are they harming the cause? Do you see JSO protestors and then go home and burn some extra fuel? They piss you off, sure, it would piss me off, but that's exactly what they are trying to do. I bet most people wouldn't have known about oil licence renewals if it weren't for JSO. Whatever you think of their actions they are doing it for shock value, to get attention and publicity for their cause, which they do (and the inconvenience from their protests is nothing compared to the inconvenience coming our way from climate change). How would you suggest protesters get attention when all other forms of protest have failed to do so? Honestly, I would really love to know, because either you believe that we should continue to do nothing, or not, and if it's the latter how should that be achieved when decades of conventional forms of protest have failed.

I hope none of them are having kids/have pets seeing as we now know that this contributes to the environmental emergency

This always intrigues me, mainly because of the sheer number of folk who start carrying on about the "climate emergency" only after they've had children

Considering we're constantly told they've been warning of the horrors to come for decades it's perhaps a bit odd that they haven't noticed, but then that's when we get the speech about it concerning "systemic change" rather than individuals

Or in other words "I'll enjoy telling others what to do, but don't even think it'll apply it to myself"

Do you see JSO protestors and then go home and burn some extra fuel?

Edited to add we don't need to - if aircraft are stuck in a stack because a runway's been blocked or motorists trapped in a jam because activists are partying on a road, they're already burning extra fuel because of the them

Though doubtless that doesn't count because the hope to claim the higher ground of "doing it for the common good"

Cannot get over how tone deaf this woman is.

I really don't understand this line of thinking. How do they distract from the message? How are they harming the cause? Do you see JSO protestors and then go home and burn some extra fuel

Yes. But I don’t need to go home to do it. Sitting in a traffic jam they have caused by sitting in the road or the extra fuel needed because of the extra miles needed because they have blocked the Dartford Crossing. to get to where you have to be

JSOs carbon footprint must be through the roof

“ I bet most people wouldn't have known about oil licence renewals if it weren't for JSO. ”

I still don’t know about these renewals, because the protest has not incentivised me to look up their cause and campaigns. What it has done is incensed me that people who were going to hospitals etc were prohibited from their daily business.

There have not been any deaths from JSO protests. Please moderate your language, that's no way to talk to anybody online. Of course I don't think these things are nothing, I was comparing them to the the effects of climate change, which has already caused hundreds of thousands of deaths and will cause many more.

Makes it seem more and more like a plant organisation to dissuade people from waking up to/protesting the real contributors of climate change

I suggest you get your facts right. It's known that there have been 3 deaths. One stroke victim, and 2 others. And I will moderate my language when you stop being inhuman and disgusting that you suggest three deaths and cancelling cancer appointments are "next to nothing". Have a look at yourself in the mirror before you lecture me.

They all come across like publicity seeking narcissists.

Actually the ambulance service has denied the claims made in some papers that the 2 crash deaths were caused by JSO protests. I'm not sure about the stroke victim. But once again, I did not say that the delays caused were nothing or that I would not also be frustrated by them (I have in fact have family members severely affected). I was making a different argument, about what sort of protest you thought could be effective when all others have failed to get attention. Or if in fact you think it better to do nothing, in which case I guess I could shout horrible names at you for not caring about the victims of climate change, such as elderly people who have died of heat stroke, or people who have died in floods, or had their homes and lived upended. Of course flooding causes countless road closures and our weather is becoming increasingly wetter. So what do you think we can do to get our government to take action?

So what do you think we can do to get our government to take action?

As I mentioned upthread, I think it would be a good idea for JSO to start targeting their own family events. Brides could arrange for other members of the group to throw paint at their dresses while they walk down the aisle, or they could blocade the roads on their day of their child's christening or their parent's funeral. That would make people think, "Holy hell, they're so worried about climate change that they've ruined their own family event to make a point, we need to start taking things more seriously..."

She messed up so many thousands of peoples' days.
Right she suffers the tiniest inconvenience as retribution.
I read the whole statement of the judge in sentencing (I would urge others to do so too - in my view an exemplar in fairness in British judgement) and I think Cressida and the others got their fair deserts.

Surely going to jail adds more publicity?
(All publicity is good publicity?)
...although I do think the sentence is disproportionately harsh.
If they had been given a fine or suspended sentence it would have had way less press or tv coverage, and no one would have heard of the individuals.

Publicity seeking is the point

Unless, like thousands of people getting married, the bride doesn't arrive in a car

I had to laugh at her mother, CF that she is. The inconvenience they put thousands of people through, work related, funerals, missed flights, missed hospital appointments.

Theres a video linked earlier in this thread I think, showing her putting a letter through an MPs letterbox and then telling the policemen outside that she is banned from doing that, being so close to any MPs house, has a restraining order and to no ones surprise she is arrested.

Now she had already posted the letter so the whole thing seemed set up to get arrested, and advertising. That's what I call peaceful protest. No one but herself delayed, no one pissed off. When she gets out she should do more of that type of thing.
And another thought, her mum seems to back her, maybe her mum could do something to get arrested too. See how she likes a few years in prison.

But surely Cressida would have boycotted the wedding in principle anyway due to its carbon footprint?

These people are all repeat offenders, @Fizbosshoes , Cressida herself has 3 priors. A fine does 1 fifth of fuck all. Not to mention, her family is extremely rich (the father is a national director of several orchestras) so it's like paying for a chocolate bar for them. 4 years is lousy and not long enough considering their stunt caused at least three deaths, a cancer patient with an aggressive cancer having to reschedule and couldn't get in for another 2 months!, a car collision, a man had a heart attack, another man couldn't even get to his own father's funeral (he said he'd never forgive the group), children with special needs unable to get their medication. And even more! 4 years is a bloody joke, it should have been a minimum of 15 years, with manslaughter charges added on!

If you're arguing that it is acceptable to shut down the M25 and disrupt thousands of journeys for that cause, because it is necessary to get attention, then do you think it's acceptable for other people to do it too for their cause?

People are very upset about the situation in Gaza and have been protesting in London for months - should they up the ante to get attention too?

Or do you think climate change is the only cause where blocking the M25 should be allowed?