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C Section is 'not a real birth'

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concretevase · 25/07/2024 13:46

Please read the post before commenting.

Birth of my daughter was a traumatic emergency C Section, after six days of an induction.

I'm about to have a baby and because of GDM am being pressured into a planned C Section or induction.

I hate hate hate the idea of going through all that again. I hate the idea of recovering from another C Section now with a toddler and a newborn and not much paternity leave for my husband.

To make matters worse I have convinced myself that if I don't push a baby out I am missing out on something about womanhood.

Has anyone experienced the same thoughts? If so how did you rationalise them?

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Sometimeswinning · 27/07/2024 18:07

I think you’ve researched the term “berth” completely different. To give something a wide berth is to avoid or old time to make room for a ship coming through.

I don’t think a definition ever includes the word it’s defining. Maybe you could do with a new dictionary 😂 I’m joking. Call it what you want. Don’t stress over my opinion.

Sometimeswinning · 27/07/2024 18:12

Megifer · 27/07/2024 17:55

"It’s langauge which takes a quick Google. The act of giving birth is to push the child through the birth canal. Birth is bringing a child forward into the world."

"No. I just did a quick google and that’s how it was worded."

"I used your search where you insisted you received no results. The results I got were pages full of information regarding labour and the stages of labour. About women bringing forth a child to be born"

Ah ok, so when you said ^^ you saw that "act of giving birth" etc. definition on your quick Google search, you didn't mean that, you just wrote a sentence?

Anyway, you can't link to anything reliable to back up your claim, that's cool. I couldn't find anything reliable either to back your claim up, so you're in good company!

Edited

Or your claim either. I did look. Nothing.

Honestly, I’m not sure why I’m arguing. If you had a c section and call it giving birth I don’t really care. It’s not correct but if it helps someone then I’m good.

zzar45 · 27/07/2024 18:26

Sometimeswinning · 27/07/2024 18:12

Or your claim either. I did look. Nothing.

Honestly, I’m not sure why I’m arguing. If you had a c section and call it giving birth I don’t really care. It’s not correct but if it helps someone then I’m good.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/give-birth

When a woman gives birth, she produces a baby from her body.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/give-birth

When a woman or female animal gives birth, she produces a baby or younganimal from her body

Clearly quite a few bodies disagree that the specific definition of giving birth is only when a baby exist the birth canal and also only when no interventions are involved.

Sounds like free birth nonsense.

Opinion maybe, but certainly not factual.

give birth

1. When a woman or female animal gives birth, she produces a baby or young…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/give-birth

Opleez · 27/07/2024 18:43

NTFT but I had an emergency c section and decided to go for VBAC next time because of some stupid comment a frenemy made that made me feel the same about missing out if I didn’t push the baby out.

Worst decision ever. Thankfully baby was fine but I’m not built for vaginal birth and ended up with emergency forceps and crash team on standby. I’m destroyed below, and had major incontinence issues for years. Baby was badly bruised and it was a long recovery for us both. I thought maybe they would be healthier because of vag microbiome but they seem a little more sickly than older sibling (although this is of course anecdotal).

There is no advantage in endangering your child or yourself for some ridiculous idea of what a ‘proper mum’ does. Women die in childbirth because they don’t have correct medical interventions - and one of those interventions is CS.

Good luck.

Yourloveissuchaswamp · 27/07/2024 18:54

@dragonfliesandbees @Sometimeswinning so if a doctor asks a woman who has had 3 children by c-section if she has ever given birth that woman should say no? According to your definition sometimeswinjing that woman should say ‘no I have birth’ 🙄🙄 well that makes total sense.

Sometimeswinning · 27/07/2024 19:04

Yourloveissuchaswamp · 27/07/2024 18:54

@dragonfliesandbees @Sometimeswinning so if a doctor asks a woman who has had 3 children by c-section if she has ever given birth that woman should say no? According to your definition sometimeswinjing that woman should say ‘no I have birth’ 🙄🙄 well that makes total sense.

She’d probably say she’s had a c section. Where as someone who hadn’t would just say yes. But again I need to stop disagreeing 😂

Call it giving birth but your scenario definitely means they should be clear about how they birthed their child.

Crystalselfcare · 27/07/2024 19:24

I had a c-section and always tell people my son was “hatched”!! lol

It’s totally a birth of a baby, and I’ll be putting an elective c section down on my birth plan if I ever have a 2nd DC.

However I guess I don’t say I gave or have given birth… I’ll either say hatched or c section.

I think the problem here is your mindset, you don’t need to have a baby vaginally to be some sort of top ranked woman. You don’t even have to have children, it’s totally fine to be in the womanhood gang without having a baby.

The judgement you get from having a baby, especially by other mums is so odd. It doesn’t matter if you had unmediated, medicated, c section, home birth etc. no woman is superior than another. We can all be incredible and strong, selfless woman who sacrificed our bodies for 9 months and then our whole lives being mums to this child we grew.

You only feel you are missing out due to some off mindset in your head that you’ve probably got from society pressure or pressure put on yourself.

Topseyt123 · 27/07/2024 22:30

I had a c-section and always tell people my son was “hatched”!! lol

I tell my DD (now 22) that she was delivered through the sun roof! 😃

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