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To think Tattle Life gossiping is necessary?

322 replies

bottomsup12 · 25/07/2024 08:29

Immediately thoughts are that it's not nice to gossip and everyone should "be kind". However, in this day and age of social media influencers etc, everyone acknowledges that people show the best bits of their life, all the ups and rarely the downsides.

We are also told to stop comparing to others on this basis as we never know what's going on behind someone's glamorous life.

Therefore, I put it to you MNers, that the b*tchiness that occurs on Tattle Life (and is IS very much so) is a necessary antidote to the fake lives we can't help comparing ourselves to.

Instead of sitting here wondering how everyone else manages to have such a great time while you're broke hardly able to pay your bills, it's reassuring to see other people cutting through the crap and pointing out the other parts of their life.

I'd argue it's a necessary by product of social media antics and the naturally occurring ying to the social media glamorous yang!

What are your thoughts?

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Pogggle · 25/07/2024 09:25

Over40Overdating · 25/07/2024 09:17

If tattle has been so instrumental in changing attitudes to ad disclosures and spon con and are truly exposing dodgy influencers then they themselves should be open to being scrutinised for ethics and transparency.

If posters had to put their real names alongside their ‘truth telling’ how many would do it? And how many would never be seen or heard from again because their only purpose in being on there is to be vindictive and bullying?

And for full transparency I was once a registered user but the glee I witnessed in kicking people for the sake of kicking them was too much after a while and I am ashamed I was on there now.

I imagine mumsnet would also be a very different site if people had to do this. Some of the comments made on here are disgusting and I imagine most people wouldn't say them if their identity was known

MintsPi · 25/07/2024 09:26

MartyFunkhouser · 25/07/2024 09:14

It is worse than here.

They make completely personal attacks about people’s bodies, faces, teeth, hair - you name it. They speculate that influencers have eating disorders, cocaine addictions, alcoholism, are terrible mothers…it can be very nasty indeed.

Edited

The first reply the OP got here was to correct a typo. Must make sure we get a quick dig in! MN in a nutshell.

There are so many threads on here that stick the boot into posters and yet Tattle is worse for calling out grifters?

If people see cruel posts about influencer's children on Tattle they should report them as it is a rule break.

cheezncrackers · 25/07/2024 09:26

None of it is necessary - following or reading the nonsense that people post about their fake lives on SM or the bitching on Tattle Life that seeks to undermine it. The amount of vacuous nonsense that people fill their lives with baffles me. I ignore it all and am probably much happier for doing so. I don't give a shit what some 'influencer' thinks or does. Why would I?

JaneTheVirgin · 25/07/2024 09:27

It depends. Some threads are discussions about actual topics relating to an influencers life or researching actual major lies, and I did find the behind the scenes interesting.

But then i stumbled onto some of the other threads and I had to leave the site. The absolute vitriol because this girl was a size 18, or didn't have perfect hair/skin/teeth. Reporting her to actual real life agencies for the most bizarre shit like going on holiday and leaving their pet with family. I had to stop because they really were that hateful and their comments could very easily have applied to a lot of other women. They were the worst dregs in society.

Undertherainbow00 · 25/07/2024 09:29

Really can’t be arsed with ‘influencers’ - if companies want to gift/pay people to promote their products then they can crack on! I buy what I like, not what is trending on social media.
I don’t agree with gossip sites, however I REALLY feel that a conversation is needed about family vloggers. There are no safeguards in place to protect their privacy and I find it incredulous that their parents always state that the kids love being filmed for their memories and wouldn’t include them if they didn’t consent… They are kids FFS they have no understanding of informed consent and ‘the guys’ are an abstract concept to them. The children that have featured in these videos will be growing into adults and I hope the platforms that host these videos are ready financially for the fallout. The parents of these kids seem to have made huge amounts of money from selling their kids childhoods on the internet.

LindorDoubleChoc · 25/07/2024 09:29

I used to admire them years ago for uncovering the truth behind social media influencers (Jack Monroe good example) but when I look at Tattle now (I've visited twice in the last 6 months) I just see hours and hours of posting from people who are addicted / obsessed and no doubt completely neglecting their real lives at the same time.

I don't think it's a good thing to be as immersed as some people clearly are in the negativity of Tattle. Be sceptical about social media (it's perfectly possible to avoid it altogether you know!!) and most importantly teach your children to have the same cynicism - then get on with your own life. Go out every day, see friends, participate in life don't watch from the sidelines.

crystalflex · 25/07/2024 09:30

I've been checking tattle out. It's pretty awful on some threads!. For instance the Katie price one. Literally last night one of the posters actually took the time out of their sad lives to follow her to an event that Katie was paid to attend. They then posted pictures and videos of the place, then went up to Katie and asked her "have you killed any dogs lately" all filmed so they could laugh about it on the thread!. That's borderline stalking and harassment.

I'm absolutely no fan of price but fuck me that's awful!.

MsLavender · 25/07/2024 09:31

I think it can be useful in the sense it "calls out" some real shitty behaviours from Influencers ie faking illnesses, poor treatment of children, dishonesty, promotion of dangerous products, promotion of dangerous practices surrounding health (disordered eating/cure cancer by eating this etc).

However a lot of it IS unsubstantiated claims and nastiness for the sake of being nasty.

I despair at how many people get sucked into Influencers lies and hang off their every word. Influencers are often their to promote an unobtainable and unrealistic lifestyle, and of course to make money. The clickbait crap and fakery is toxic and has a huge impact on other peoples lives, especially young people and it should be more heavily regulated. Until it is more regulated then places like Tattle has it's place imo, but Tattle itself could be much better moderated and shouldn't allow the posts that are disgusting towards influencers children for a start.

thecoffeewasthething · 25/07/2024 09:32

I used to work for a person discussed on Tattle, and the threads can descend into bitchiness occasionally, but 95% of the content is true and discusses the damage this person is causing to her vulnerable followers. It's very difficult to discuss this person online anywhere else public because she follows any mention of her name closely, reports people to the police for discussing her online (claims of harassment), and threads/comments are deleted. But her behaviour is atrocious and puts vulnerable people at risk - recommending they cease medications without medical support/follow up, etc.

So I think Tattle has its place.

Leggyhermit · 25/07/2024 09:33

Bumpitybumper · 25/07/2024 09:23

I agree that the comments about her appearance are awful and nobody should ever insult children BUT she really is the absolute worst for selling out her kids. All this talk about being a lovely mother who puts her children first and yet she places them in such obvious danger and invades their privacy constantly. There is simply no excuse for pimping your kids out for engagement, likes and advertising campaigns. They are not old enough to provide informed consent and it's massively exploitative. If this happend in any other industry then huge questions would be asked and I honestly think social services would be involved.

I can agree with that, not only do people on tattle say where she lives, it took me 5 minutes to work it out myself because she's too liberal with that information given her platform. I have all my socials on private with just people I know in real as friends (about 180) would never dream of basically giving the whole internet my children's address. I don't know if she realises how easy she is to locate, but anyway yes like I said I don't agree with some things she does. But I've seen some vile comments about the appearance of her children especially which I think is disgusting

Fullyflavoured · 25/07/2024 09:34

crystalflex · 25/07/2024 09:30

I've been checking tattle out. It's pretty awful on some threads!. For instance the Katie price one. Literally last night one of the posters actually took the time out of their sad lives to follow her to an event that Katie was paid to attend. They then posted pictures and videos of the place, then went up to Katie and asked her "have you killed any dogs lately" all filmed so they could laugh about it on the thread!. That's borderline stalking and harassment.

I'm absolutely no fan of price but fuck me that's awful!.

That's seriously fucked up. That poster needs reporting for harassment.

Greenlittecat · 25/07/2024 09:34

Does anyone have a sign up code? 😁

Beefcurtains79 · 25/07/2024 09:35

It has lots of different areas, off topic has some really interesting posters and topics.
On tattle the posters are nasty about about influencers and celebrities and nice to each other. On Mumsnet the posters are often deferential to celebs, and are nasty to each other.
It’s not so different.

Ticketybooboo · 25/07/2024 09:35

I follow a few threads and find the tattlers funny, knowledgeable and a lot less bitchy towards each other than here. They’re great at dismantling grifters.

Didimum · 25/07/2024 09:35

I’m someone who thinks internet socialites should be scrutinised for sure, but Tattle is absolutely vile.

LifeofBrienne · 25/07/2024 09:36

cheezncrackers · 25/07/2024 09:26

None of it is necessary - following or reading the nonsense that people post about their fake lives on SM or the bitching on Tattle Life that seeks to undermine it. The amount of vacuous nonsense that people fill their lives with baffles me. I ignore it all and am probably much happier for doing so. I don't give a shit what some 'influencer' thinks or does. Why would I?

This. The antidote to social media fakery is not to get over-invested in it but to ignore it. Either get off social media and do stuff in the real world, or at least don’t choose to follow ‘influencers’. There’s plenty of other content out there from artists, journalists, campaigners, wildlife-spotters, people who share comedy animal videos, you name it! None of which is set up to provoke feelings envy/inadequacy and consequent hostile reactions.

Leggyhermit · 25/07/2024 09:36

Didimum · 25/07/2024 09:35

I’m someone who thinks internet socialites should be scrutinised for sure, but Tattle is absolutely vile.

The influencers yes, but I think they should be banned for talking about the children

Fullyflavoured · 25/07/2024 09:37

Beefcurtains79 · 25/07/2024 09:35

It has lots of different areas, off topic has some really interesting posters and topics.
On tattle the posters are nasty about about influencers and celebrities and nice to each other. On Mumsnet the posters are often deferential to celebs, and are nasty to each other.
It’s not so different.

Any disagreement on Tattle is deleted, so saying they are nice to each other is bollocks. Also read the Tattle sub on Reddit if you want to see what they really think about each other.

Wigtopia · 25/07/2024 09:38

Fullyflavoured · 25/07/2024 08:36

I've never compared my life to an influencer because I give no fucks about their lives.

I’ve never compared mine either. It’s easy to not compare when you remind yourself that their actual job that they get income for is to make their life look better than it is.

willWillSmithsmith · 25/07/2024 09:38

I watch a lady who has a YouTube channel, it’s all very low key, no children in it, all very innocuous. She has this habit though of getting ‘moist eyed’ on her videos and it was starting to get on my nerves but wasn’t sure if it was just me and if I was just being unkind (I’m not really a sentimental kind of person). I looked her up on tattle and yes, it seems she annoys other people with this too. It made me feel better that it wasn’t my imagination or I was being critical for the sake of it. The comments weren’t really nasty just pulling her up on her like-clockwork over schmaltzy tendencies.

BeeDavis · 25/07/2024 09:39

No it’s vile on there. A woman I work with had a thread about her and her fiance and the stuff they were spouting was just absolute lies. They had to get to police involved.

Leggyhermit · 25/07/2024 09:44

It makes an ashamed to be a woman reading it sometimes, how can woman be so vile to other woman? Its 80% woman on woman hatred although I know men will be involved too

usernother · 25/07/2024 09:45

I think it's good that some of them call out grifters who ask for money from people. Jack Monroe for instance. I also like the threads that point out lies told by some people, and the painstaking records kept by those who do the wiki for each of them. But I agree that they go too far sometimes, and I hate it when they are horrible about children.

Pigeonqueen · 25/07/2024 09:47

willWillSmithsmith · 25/07/2024 09:38

I watch a lady who has a YouTube channel, it’s all very low key, no children in it, all very innocuous. She has this habit though of getting ‘moist eyed’ on her videos and it was starting to get on my nerves but wasn’t sure if it was just me and if I was just being unkind (I’m not really a sentimental kind of person). I looked her up on tattle and yes, it seems she annoys other people with this too. It made me feel better that it wasn’t my imagination or I was being critical for the sake of it. The comments weren’t really nasty just pulling her up on her like-clockwork over schmaltzy tendencies.

But if it annoys you just don’t watch? 🤷‍♀️ Why do you need it validated by others being horrible about it.

HooverTheRoof · 25/07/2024 09:47

I think the people who post on there get a deep sense of satisfaction from being utterly horrible bullies. They think it's justified to do it on there because they are "exposing influencers" but actually it's just heir own innate nastiness. It's not helpful to anyone, they're kidding themselves.