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To think Tattle Life gossiping is necessary?

322 replies

bottomsup12 · 25/07/2024 08:29

Immediately thoughts are that it's not nice to gossip and everyone should "be kind". However, in this day and age of social media influencers etc, everyone acknowledges that people show the best bits of their life, all the ups and rarely the downsides.

We are also told to stop comparing to others on this basis as we never know what's going on behind someone's glamorous life.

Therefore, I put it to you MNers, that the b*tchiness that occurs on Tattle Life (and is IS very much so) is a necessary antidote to the fake lives we can't help comparing ourselves to.

Instead of sitting here wondering how everyone else manages to have such a great time while you're broke hardly able to pay your bills, it's reassuring to see other people cutting through the crap and pointing out the other parts of their life.

I'd argue it's a necessary by product of social media antics and the naturally occurring ying to the social media glamorous yang!

What are your thoughts?

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SharpOliveHam · 30/07/2024 11:04

The majority of people who regularly post on Tattle must be mentally unwell. I genuinely am not saying that to be hyperbolic. And/or extremely unhappy in their own lives.

Nchanged89 · 30/07/2024 11:24

SharpOliveHam · 30/07/2024 11:04

The majority of people who regularly post on Tattle must be mentally unwell. I genuinely am not saying that to be hyperbolic. And/or extremely unhappy in their own lives.

Have you read some of the shit on here, people who won't open their doors and are unable to make small decisions without posting on here, users making unnecessary catty remarks on threads and piling on people who do ask questions and bullying people with obvious mental health issues. MN is a very nasty place and to the members are nasty to each other.

Babachew · 30/07/2024 12:17

Yes, Mumsnet is a viper's nest.

Beefcurtains79 · 01/08/2024 10:07

At least Tattlers aren’t desperately tying themselves in knots trying to defend Huw Edward’s.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 02/08/2024 06:46

TheFormidableMrsC · 26/07/2024 17:30

What on Earth has Sally Hughes done? I've never known anybody in the industry say anything but nice things about her. I've only ever known her to be absolutely lovely.

She joined with India Knight and Lauren Laverne in bullying Dawn O'Porter on twitter. Making vicious fun of her alopecia, calling her a 'boiled prawn' and all other sorts of names. Also made threats of violence to certain tattle posters, threatening to turn up at that houses and that she had the addresses. Knight chimed in and threatened to set her husband, the ex MP and convicted Paedophile Eric Joyce, on them tattle posters and their families.

Mercurial123 · 02/08/2024 07:03

LaMarschallin · 26/07/2024 16:48

GiveMeSpanakopita

They exposed Jack Monroe, so I've got to give them that. Oh and Sali Hughes. And Schofield.

What's Sali Hughes done wrong?
I quite like her articles - what am I missing?

Sali Hughes is an influencer who sees herself as a journalist (she isn't). Her writing is awful, and her column in The Guardian is a joke. She has nothing of interest to say. I find her unpleasant. As previously mentioned, she has known to be a bully. I'm not sure how anyone would trust her recommendations.

SerafinasGoose · 02/08/2024 10:04

GiveMeSpanakopita · 02/08/2024 06:46

She joined with India Knight and Lauren Laverne in bullying Dawn O'Porter on twitter. Making vicious fun of her alopecia, calling her a 'boiled prawn' and all other sorts of names. Also made threats of violence to certain tattle posters, threatening to turn up at that houses and that she had the addresses. Knight chimed in and threatened to set her husband, the ex MP and convicted Paedophile Eric Joyce, on them tattle posters and their families.

I didn't know that about Lauren Laverne. Very, very disappointed in her.

As for Knight, no words can adequately convey my contempt for her so I shan't even bother.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 02/08/2024 10:15

SerafinasGoose · 02/08/2024 10:04

I didn't know that about Lauren Laverne. Very, very disappointed in her.

As for Knight, no words can adequately convey my contempt for her so I shan't even bother.

Yeah, I used to love Kenickie in my misspent 20s, went to loads of their gigs, loved Lauren. A lot of the things I've subsequently heard about her have been....disappointing.

But that's human beings for you.

IK....saying goodbye to your disabled daughter so you can continue to live with your paedophile partner is....quite something, yes. And the fact that she's still employed by the Sunday Times is, I believe, emblematic of the same comfortable 'turn a blind eye and protect our own' attitude of our media class that enabled Huw Edwards.

usernother · 02/08/2024 11:16

Dawn O'Porter had alopecia? I didn't know that? Do you mean Gail Porter? I'm disappointed to read anything bad about Lauren Laverne too.

SerafinasGoose · 02/08/2024 11:32

usernother · 02/08/2024 11:16

Dawn O'Porter had alopecia? I didn't know that? Do you mean Gail Porter? I'm disappointed to read anything bad about Lauren Laverne too.

In some senses, the toxic cesspool that is TwiX has its uses. I have no interest whatsoever in influencers and couldn't name one. But I'm something of a devotee of 6 Music, so Laverne was known to me, as is Alice Roberts who as a prominent female academic was someone I once willingly admired.

No longer - not after I witnessed her antics on that platform using her Professorial status as a means of bullying a very junior academic. This woman was putting forward reasoned, substantiated arguments which, interestingly enough, Roberts couldn't counter. So instead, she browbeat the younger academic with her credentials and highlighted her opponent's junior status by comparison. This means nothing without an argument and a strong publications profile to back up someone's expertise in any particular field. Those are the unspoken standards by which academics all must abide; another is that your credibility will be shot to pieces forever if you plagiarise. Roberts' work on 'The Incredible Human Journey', a broadcasting/book piece I enjoyed and was fascinated by, is directly lifted from Spencer Wells' 'The Journey of Man'.

I don't think I've ever been so disappointed in one single public persona. (And the arguments she was making were pitiful, for a so-called paleoanthropologist and medical doctor). She then locked down her profile and claimed she was the victim of misogyny. Wrong. People had witnessed this play out. She was the victim of her own myopia and bullying, and she alone had called her academic credibility seriously into question.

TwiX certainly has a habit of showing people up as they really are. Who needs an equally toxic website like 'Tatler' stalking, outing and vilifying people? Most - even the supposedly intelligent ones - can easily do that for themselves.

And as for Laurence Fox ......

IcedPurple · 02/08/2024 14:42

Mercurial123 · 02/08/2024 07:03

Sali Hughes is an influencer who sees herself as a journalist (she isn't). Her writing is awful, and her column in The Guardian is a joke. She has nothing of interest to say. I find her unpleasant. As previously mentioned, she has known to be a bully. I'm not sure how anyone would trust her recommendations.

Does she still have that column?

It started out OK but soon descended into just a product promo. As you say, she's an influencer posing as a journalist.

I used to comment on her column back in the day, and I remember it attracted a weird cohort of fawning fangirls. Odd, given that all she did was plug a lipstick or eye cream. She also couldn't tolerate even the slightest dissent from her words of wisdom and as you mentioned, became quite unpleasant.

Tattle definitely had her number.

Mercurial123 · 02/08/2024 18:10

@IcedIcedPurple, yes, her column is now on Friday.

GhostBunny · 03/11/2024 18:22

I’ve seen some of the threads on Tattlelife but not commented or participated in any discussions, it’s not my thing, I don’t follow “influencers” but there are a few legit creators I take inspiration from and am more than happy to share their content especially in the fitness/health/neurodiverse/chronic illness sector as I also blog my own chronic illness journey.
However I can’t sit back and say nothing when I know personally of a so called “mummy influencer” who is a very dangerous, poisonous, narcissistic person!
This woman has been abusing and cheating on her husband for years, she neglects and emotionally/mentally abuses her children but still portrays a “good mum” persona on her social media.
She’s now telling people she’s divorced (which she isn’t) and that her kids have ADHD (which they do not) This woman is unfortunately a member of my family…at least for now.
Both myself and my husband hear multiple times a day what goes on in that house from her husband and to be completely honest it is beyond disgusting.
The fact that she manages to bs her way onto podcasts pretending to give other mums parenting advice, lying through her back teeth all the while sleeping around with other men, neglecting her kids, abusing her husband while also trying to be a “famous influencer” is imo stupidly astonishing!
She truly believes she’s untouchable, but non of us can stay quiet any longer, especially as authorities are now involved and she’s getting desperate for any kind of media attention.
I am aware a lot of other mums have already called her out on Tattlelife and quite rightly so.
I don’t want to go out of my way to “out” someone, I have enough going on in my own life, but I also have a strong sense of injustice and as someone who grew up in an abusive environment, knowing this is happening to someone I love and care about really hurts.
It doesn’t help that her side of the family know what she’s like and what she’s doing but continue to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it’s not happening.
For us personally knowing she is lying about her kids having ADHD purely for social media gain really affects us, we fought and are still fighting for our boys (who are diagnosed) to get the right help and we know so many other parents who are also fighting and struggling.
It’s people like her that make it 10x harder for kids who do need help to legit get help.
So as cruel as Tattlelife can be, I think it’s also important that toxic fake dangerous “mummy influencers” like my sister in law get called out.

CandiedPrincess · 03/11/2024 20:03

Got to give us a clue @GhostBunny

meandkarmavibe · 03/11/2024 20:07

GhostBunny · 03/11/2024 18:22

I’ve seen some of the threads on Tattlelife but not commented or participated in any discussions, it’s not my thing, I don’t follow “influencers” but there are a few legit creators I take inspiration from and am more than happy to share their content especially in the fitness/health/neurodiverse/chronic illness sector as I also blog my own chronic illness journey.
However I can’t sit back and say nothing when I know personally of a so called “mummy influencer” who is a very dangerous, poisonous, narcissistic person!
This woman has been abusing and cheating on her husband for years, she neglects and emotionally/mentally abuses her children but still portrays a “good mum” persona on her social media.
She’s now telling people she’s divorced (which she isn’t) and that her kids have ADHD (which they do not) This woman is unfortunately a member of my family…at least for now.
Both myself and my husband hear multiple times a day what goes on in that house from her husband and to be completely honest it is beyond disgusting.
The fact that she manages to bs her way onto podcasts pretending to give other mums parenting advice, lying through her back teeth all the while sleeping around with other men, neglecting her kids, abusing her husband while also trying to be a “famous influencer” is imo stupidly astonishing!
She truly believes she’s untouchable, but non of us can stay quiet any longer, especially as authorities are now involved and she’s getting desperate for any kind of media attention.
I am aware a lot of other mums have already called her out on Tattlelife and quite rightly so.
I don’t want to go out of my way to “out” someone, I have enough going on in my own life, but I also have a strong sense of injustice and as someone who grew up in an abusive environment, knowing this is happening to someone I love and care about really hurts.
It doesn’t help that her side of the family know what she’s like and what she’s doing but continue to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it’s not happening.
For us personally knowing she is lying about her kids having ADHD purely for social media gain really affects us, we fought and are still fighting for our boys (who are diagnosed) to get the right help and we know so many other parents who are also fighting and struggling.
It’s people like her that make it 10x harder for kids who do need help to legit get help.
So as cruel as Tattlelife can be, I think it’s also important that toxic fake dangerous “mummy influencers” like my sister in law get called out.

“Someone I know” - “like my sister in law” - stories coming from your BIL . No bias there at all 🤣🤣

GhostBunny · 03/11/2024 20:17

No story, what we’ve witnessed with our own eyes and ears, also via recordings her husband has had to put in his own home for his own protection.
The police certainly don’t think its biased

meandkarmavibe · 03/11/2024 20:21

in that case, leave the police to deal with it

GhostBunny · 03/11/2024 20:25

We are

WhoStoleYourHighHorse · 03/11/2024 21:08

Always going to be a place for Tattle while influencers pretend to be your friend but are ruthless selling machines. It’s quite incredible how the broadsheets are happy to give them column inches to pitch their “business” but delete any comments that challenge the bollocks they peddle.
Interesting article in the Economist

To think Tattle Life gossiping is necessary?
PoliteOtter · 03/11/2024 21:09

GhostBunny · 03/11/2024 18:22

I’ve seen some of the threads on Tattlelife but not commented or participated in any discussions, it’s not my thing, I don’t follow “influencers” but there are a few legit creators I take inspiration from and am more than happy to share their content especially in the fitness/health/neurodiverse/chronic illness sector as I also blog my own chronic illness journey.
However I can’t sit back and say nothing when I know personally of a so called “mummy influencer” who is a very dangerous, poisonous, narcissistic person!
This woman has been abusing and cheating on her husband for years, she neglects and emotionally/mentally abuses her children but still portrays a “good mum” persona on her social media.
She’s now telling people she’s divorced (which she isn’t) and that her kids have ADHD (which they do not) This woman is unfortunately a member of my family…at least for now.
Both myself and my husband hear multiple times a day what goes on in that house from her husband and to be completely honest it is beyond disgusting.
The fact that she manages to bs her way onto podcasts pretending to give other mums parenting advice, lying through her back teeth all the while sleeping around with other men, neglecting her kids, abusing her husband while also trying to be a “famous influencer” is imo stupidly astonishing!
She truly believes she’s untouchable, but non of us can stay quiet any longer, especially as authorities are now involved and she’s getting desperate for any kind of media attention.
I am aware a lot of other mums have already called her out on Tattlelife and quite rightly so.
I don’t want to go out of my way to “out” someone, I have enough going on in my own life, but I also have a strong sense of injustice and as someone who grew up in an abusive environment, knowing this is happening to someone I love and care about really hurts.
It doesn’t help that her side of the family know what she’s like and what she’s doing but continue to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it’s not happening.
For us personally knowing she is lying about her kids having ADHD purely for social media gain really affects us, we fought and are still fighting for our boys (who are diagnosed) to get the right help and we know so many other parents who are also fighting and struggling.
It’s people like her that make it 10x harder for kids who do need help to legit get help.
So as cruel as Tattlelife can be, I think it’s also important that toxic fake dangerous “mummy influencers” like my sister in law get called out.

Yeah I can definitely see that it’s not your thing.

nottaotter · 03/11/2024 21:14

Disagree, it's horrible, some of the stuff ive seen written is bullying and extremely unpleasant. About peoples looks etc

usernother · 03/11/2024 21:16

Oh come on @GhostBunny give us clue so I can read the thread on tattle.

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