Greater Manchester Police brutality

[Gummybear23]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

From the footage I’ve seen, he was on the floor and was holding his hands up and they kicked him in the face.

They are not meant to act with unreasonable force which they did from what I can see

It's completely unacceptable behaviour from a police officer and he absolutely should be sanctioned. I can see how and why he's reacted that way if what has been reported is accurate (assaulting 3 female officers and breaking one of their noses) but you cannot let emotion take over and lose control as a police officer as you are supposed to uphold the law.

hmm @Gummybear23 it’s fine to watch a 12 second clip and make judgements, but did you also read this:

”During our response, three officers were assaulted. One female officer suffered a broken nose and the other officers were forced to the ground and suffered injuries which required hospital treatment.”

Do you know what it takes to subdue an unruly suspect who has attacked multiple officers and hospitalised one?

Perhaps some of the keyboard protesters who weirdly open a thread to get everyone piling in (excuse the allusion) could ask themselves what preceded this footage, and what does it take to subdue someone who has been that violent and belligerent in the lead up?

There is another video showing when the violence - yes, violence - began and the police 100% started. They sprayed a man in the face whilst he was recording them and the men all had their hands up, no one was raising a finger at the police. The elderly woman was also hit in the face by police.

It is sickening.

Listen, I understand the heightened emotion and I've said above I can see how this happened but it's not acceptable to use that kind of behaviour on a suspect that's already down on the ground with their hands by their side. Quite clearly they didn't reach or move in the time he did that.

But from what it looks like in the video at this point the guy was lying on the floor face down completely subdued, this was therefore entirely unnecessary behaviour at this Point!

I am not disputing that this guy had done wrong but is what we expect of our police force?

If this is what the police do to people who are no longer actively threatening, we might as well let random bozos off the street take over the police force since it’s just wild violence with no sense behind it. It is unacceptable and shocked me seeing this video.

Any police misconduct should be considered one of the most serious crimes possible. Not protecting a member of the public from another police officer should be considered even worse that the purpetrator.

All police present should be in front of a panel of the public tomorrow, automatic life sentence same day for any unnecessary physical violence or not intervening.The highest standards should be expected - this is simply abhorrent and justice needs to be quick and harsh.

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I don’t disagree that the highest standards should be expected

I just struggle with the whole “from the video I can see”.. way of being .. it’s a clip

He is on the ground and his head has been kicked like it is a fucking football!!

There are clearly defined laws in policing. Kicking a restrained, prone suspect in the face repeatedly is most definitely against the guidelines, whether they have previously assaulted someone or not. It's about threat and risk, not about whether the police officer is angry and feels they need to be taught a lesson.

The Officer should be charged for this. If that sort of violence is a criminal offence for a member of the public, it should also be the case for a Police Officer. I heard that Officer’s had been assaulted in Policing the situation, with one sustaining a broken nose. By the time the Officer viciously kicked the man in the head and stamped on his head, it was all under control. This was an armed Officer. They are supposed to be assessed to have the best temperaments, with a low risk of them acting compulsively (yet we had Wayne Couzens and David Carrick).

It is a brutal attack when the man has been tasered. Well beyond reasonable force.
In terms of Context
The Greater Manchester Police have a history of lying and covering their tracks.

so i dont believe their version until i have seen an independent investigation conducted.

And besides the 'anger issues' officer should not be in that post.

Do you not think this kind of thing should not be discussed?

The police do need to use force to subdue people.

But they have to know when and when not to overstep the mark. No matter what happened before.

We have mobile phone cameras, body cams and no doubt a lot of CCTV as well so the police should know that their actions will be scrutinised.

Also to add that the police force are supposed to be highest example of stewards of the law. Even when attacked themselves they cannot behave as if they are civilians on the street in a drunken brawl.
The officer has been "removed from front line duties". I would have expected him to be have been suspended until investigation has been carried out.

A clip that shows an armed officer has lost control.

Bit like when Wayne couzens lost control?
This officer should be sacked!
Yes , we should demand the highest standards. Why shouldn't we?
Are these brutes suppose to protect us and yet can't control their own anger?
Greater Manchester Police are probably colluding for a cover up.
Lies lies and more lies.

Meanwhile, let's get an Asian officer to give a statement.
That will look good said the PR officer.

An independent investigation NOW.

The video is shocking. The man is tasered and on the ground and his head is kicked. It's absolutely horrific! Made even worse by the other police officers not stopping the brutality

You have to wonder at what point do they think - this is being filmed. Should one of us try to calm things down and deescalate the situation?

There should be zero tolerance for police brutality. I couldn't give a flying fuck what happened leading up to this moment. The perpetrator was restrained and on the floor. He was no longer a threat at that moment. The police officer assaulted him because he was angry. That is exactly what the men who were fighting had been doing: expressing their anger with violence. Unacceptable for anyone, but should be career ending for a police officer who has been trusted with a position of authority and should be conducting himself with professionalism. There is (or should be) no room for thugs in our police force.

The fact that the statement from the police is basically "but they assaulted our officers first" is disgusting. Assault is not OK just because someone else assaulted your friend first. This wasn't self defence.

I commented on the other post about this, and my original comment was along the lines of ‘did you see what the man did first?… he deserved it.’ - but I realise that was my initial and instant reaction of anger to hearing the injuries inflicted on those police officers - including breaking the nose of a female officer. However, I watched the video after reading about it first, and it’s really clear to see that at the point of the officer kicking the man in the head, the man was down on the floor, completely immobile and defenceless. That kick was so brutal, he could have caused brain damage, especially with those boots on! Despite what my gut reaction was, and anyone else that felt the same, I’m sure we all know that it’s not self defence at that point, it’s not protecting anyone at all at that point and it really is not acceptable for an officer of the law to kick someone in the head - for any reason.

The various videos I’ve seen look horrific and the events will be no doubt traumatising for the family/friends involved. Elderly ladies and young children.

The video of the kick and stamp looks like an officer who had completely lost control and decided to dish out punishment. These type of officers don’t make me feel any safer!

The rush to release the statement from the police is something we’ve seen many times before, the mention of the police officer with the alleged broken nose being female is deliberate too.

With the conviction of Benjamin Monk I was hopeful we were starting to see reform. Obviously not.

I mean it happened in a split second. I don't think the other officers could possibly have stopped that!

Subduing a violent and belligerent individual.

What happened before is irrelevant.
If he can't stop himself from exacting impulsive and criminal revenge he shouldn't be a police officer, let alone an armed one.

Hopefully he sees jail but I don't hold my breath

Ahh yeah, I read it.

I also read a police statement on the day Jean Charles De Menzies was killed. It said Jean Charles was a suspected terrorist who was wearing a puffa jacket to hide a bomb, jumped the turnstiles and ran away from the police onto a busy train. None of it true.

There's no legitimate reason to boot and stamp on someone's head who is already detained.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2007/aug/02/menezes.peterwalker1