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Greater Manchester Police brutality

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Gummybear23 · 24/07/2024 22:22

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

Manchester airport: officer removed from frontline duty after arrest video goes viral

Armed police officer seen kicking suspect in footage Greater Manchester police called ‘truly shocking’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

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JacquesHarlow · 25/07/2024 01:03

I stand corrected, fair enough. I don’t want to see this kind of loss of control either.

ExpressCheckout · 25/07/2024 08:35

I am speechless, this is absolutely disgusting.

This speaks volumes about the calibre of people now being recruited into the police force. It also speaks volumes about the leadership of GMP.

I live in the GMP area, and I've already written to my MP this morning.

eggplant16 · 25/07/2024 08:41

I can't watch it, I presume the person on the floor isn't white?

Scammersarescum · 25/07/2024 08:45

Without seeing the level of violence and disorder prior to this clip there is no way of judging.

That said one of the perpetrators has smacked a female officer is the face so hard she sustained a broken nose.

In the clip the perpetrators were very clearly resisting. It's an airport, a sensitive area that needs to be tightly controlled. How were the police to know whether this was a distraction from a terrorist incident. They don't. They needed to being the situation under control ASAP.

Now the middle class world of mumsnet may not like it, but these police will deal with scum, day in day out throughout their careers. Thieves, rapists, child abusers, murders, wife beaters. And they will know, sometimes the only way to bring a situation under control quickly is to kick someone in the head to keep them down on the floor.

If that offends you, don't join the police. But don't try and stir up hatred of the police using a tiny clip of what was clearly a much longer incident.

ItsMeNotTheProblem · 25/07/2024 08:52

Scammersarescum · 25/07/2024 08:45

Without seeing the level of violence and disorder prior to this clip there is no way of judging.

That said one of the perpetrators has smacked a female officer is the face so hard she sustained a broken nose.

In the clip the perpetrators were very clearly resisting. It's an airport, a sensitive area that needs to be tightly controlled. How were the police to know whether this was a distraction from a terrorist incident. They don't. They needed to being the situation under control ASAP.

Now the middle class world of mumsnet may not like it, but these police will deal with scum, day in day out throughout their careers. Thieves, rapists, child abusers, murders, wife beaters. And they will know, sometimes the only way to bring a situation under control quickly is to kick someone in the head to keep them down on the floor.

If that offends you, don't join the police. But don't try and stir up hatred of the police using a tiny clip of what was clearly a much longer incident.

Get yourself to fuck.

I absolutely will judge a police officer kicking a man in the prone position in the head.

Police officers behaving like this deserve to be hated, as do those who blindly support them.

poshsnobtwit · 25/07/2024 08:53

@Scammersarescum the level of violence prior isn't relevant. Whether you, I or the police officer think he's scum should not warrant an assault on a restrained suspect.

poshsnobtwit · 25/07/2024 08:54

eggplant16 · 25/07/2024 08:41

I can't watch it, I presume the person on the floor isn't white?

Correct, he's of SE Asian heritage

needhelpwiththisplease · 25/07/2024 08:57

The most worrying part is that this police officer is armed and had absolutely no control whatsoever over his emotions

eggplant16 · 25/07/2024 08:57

poshsnobtwit · 25/07/2024 08:54

Correct, he's of SE Asian heritage

Awful, No excuse, they are supposed to be professionals.

Waltdisnerd · 25/07/2024 08:58

Did you see the recent murder of Sonya Massey in America?
Very glad our police don't carry guns but this is still unacceptable.

ExpressCheckout · 25/07/2024 08:59

@eggplant16 I find it hard to see the ethnicity of the person on the floor but see the post by @poshsnobtwit above for their view.

But it's very clear that they are already restrained, yet the male police officer felt it necessary to boot the person very, very hard in the head.

@Scammersarescum fine, use a taser if you need to, but a trained police office should never kick someone in the head - never.

And I'm not trying to stir up hatred of the police🙄

I want police to behave in a reasonable and proportionate manner, I want them to recruit the right people, and I want them to be led properly.

theresnolimits · 25/07/2024 08:59

This incident was filmed. Imagine how many other incidents are not filmed.

greengreyblue · 25/07/2024 09:01

I get that the perpetrators were violent and a high risk to the officers and public but these officers have tasers and guns! At the point of kicking and stamping on his head( abhorrent) they had several tasers pointing at him and he is on the floor with his hands up.

IClaudine · 25/07/2024 09:01

Scammersarescum · 25/07/2024 08:45

Without seeing the level of violence and disorder prior to this clip there is no way of judging.

That said one of the perpetrators has smacked a female officer is the face so hard she sustained a broken nose.

In the clip the perpetrators were very clearly resisting. It's an airport, a sensitive area that needs to be tightly controlled. How were the police to know whether this was a distraction from a terrorist incident. They don't. They needed to being the situation under control ASAP.

Now the middle class world of mumsnet may not like it, but these police will deal with scum, day in day out throughout their careers. Thieves, rapists, child abusers, murders, wife beaters. And they will know, sometimes the only way to bring a situation under control quickly is to kick someone in the head to keep them down on the floor.

If that offends you, don't join the police. But don't try and stir up hatred of the police using a tiny clip of what was clearly a much longer incident.

You need to have a look at the footage showing the wider events around this incident before you sneer at everyone who is appalled by this.

The police involved act like out of control thugs, for example pepper spraying people who are doing nothing wrong.

They should all be sacked.

RisingSunn · 25/07/2024 09:02

JacquesHarlow · 24/07/2024 22:50

hmm @Gummybear23 it’s fine to watch a 12 second clip and make judgements, but did you also read this:

”During our response, three officers were assaulted. One female officer suffered a broken nose and the other officers were forced to the ground and suffered injuries which required hospital treatment.”

Do you know what it takes to subdue an unruly suspect who has attacked multiple officers and hospitalised one?

Perhaps some of the keyboard protesters who weirdly open a thread to get everyone piling in (excuse the allusion) could ask themselves what preceded this footage, and what does it take to subdue someone who has been that violent and belligerent in the lead up?

But that’s why they are the “professionals” and we are not.

They have extensive training to not react to situations the way Joe Bloggs in the pub would.

Hoppinggreen · 25/07/2024 09:02

Given the mans actions I can see why an officer would want to do this BUT they can't.
We need Police Officers who can show restraint when other people would kick someone in the head and this Officer didn't.
I hope this Officer is dealt with appropriately and I also hope that his actions don't mean that a violent man who assaulted Police Officers gets away with it.

greengreyblue · 25/07/2024 09:03

Kicking someone in the head and then stamping on it when you haven’t deployed the taser???

Mayorq · 25/07/2024 09:36

"but these police will deal with scum, day in day out throughout their careers. Thieves, rapists, child abusers, murders, wife beaters."

What does the police staff room have to do with this?

catsinspace55 · 25/07/2024 10:23

I hope the female police officer who had her nose broken is ok?

Hoppinggreen · 25/07/2024 10:32

catsinspace55 · 25/07/2024 10:23

I hope the female police officer who had her nose broken is ok?

Excellent point.
I hope the Officers not accused of unecessary violence are being properly supported

PuttingDownRoots · 25/07/2024 10:41

Police ate supposed to make us feel safe.
A police officer kicking someone in the head after they ate subdued doesn't make people fe safe. It makes them more likely to fight back.

Hopefully the injured officers and bystanders are OK, and the suspect/victim has no lasting injuries.

CoralReader · 25/07/2024 10:43

Hopefully everyone injured is okay

Threeweeksold · 25/07/2024 10:45

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 24/07/2024 22:49

It's completely unacceptable behaviour from a police officer and he absolutely should be sanctioned. I can see how and why he's reacted that way if what has been reported is accurate (assaulting 3 female officers and breaking one of their noses) but you cannot let emotion take over and lose control as a police officer as you are supposed to uphold the law.

Not to mention that he was a firearms officer. Imagine someone with that explosive temperament being in charge of a gun.

MrHarleyQuin · 25/07/2024 10:48

The police have to be held to higher standards of control than the person they are arresting, especially as you say when they are a firearms officer.

We have to hold our police to much higher standards than we have in the past. I can understand the desire to give someone a good kicking when they have injured your colleagues but it shouldn't go beyond the reasonable force required to make the arrest.

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