Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

I am not shocked at people defending the police

I know if the family were white and appeared to be middle class the police response wouldn't be excused (and police would treat them differently)

There is absolutely no excuse for this behaviour police have a role to keep the peace

I have seen the footage, and it looks horrible. But, a female PC did end up with a broken nose, and other witnesses say he was trying to grab a firearm.

Perhaps best to wait until it’s investigated properly.🤷‍♀️

I'd love to know how he was trying to grab a firearm whilst being face down on the floor with his hands restrained.

F* around and find out 😄 if you behave yourself and comply this would not happen. Only themselves to blame... unfortunately the police officer will probably lose his job over this though!

Sick of hearing about the female with the broken nose tbh. Either they work on an equal basis or they don't.
Its not Juliet Bravo.

It must be horrendous to be a police officer. They will suffer daily abuse and deal with some of the most dislikable members of society at times. If you’re being attacked by an aggressor, then the adrenaline will be high and you might feel fear and rage.

However, you have a professional duty to only use proportionate force. Letting your anger spill into aggression where it is absolutely not needed, as in this case is unacceptable. The investigation must happen. You cannot use force in revenge.

He will loose his job because he used extreme violence when it was not needed

Rightly so

What are you talking about? Are you suggesting we wouldn’t be hearing about it if he’d broken a males nose?!

In the video you can quite clearly see the man is restrained on the floor. He is then kicked in the head and they stamp on his head. Allegedly someone else (a "suspect") was also assaulted.

The use of force was, in this case, completely disproportionate. If they felt threatened, they should have used their tasers. They didn't, because he had an officer restraining him. Therefore he did not have ANY reason to act as he did. At the least, it's s.18 GBH. At the worst, it's attempted murder.

There will always be people who defend the police no matter what. When Sarah Everard was killed, there were people out defending his colleagues, the ones who ‘jokingly’ called him The Rapist. People will defend the police because they want to believe they live in a world where if you’re good, nothing bad will happen to you, and it’s just a few bad apples etc. It’s basically the same mentality as the Not All Men brigade.

I think people perceive it as worse because she's a female. Every single post has mentioned "the female police officer". If it was a man I don't think people would say "broke the nose of a male police officer". They'd just say police officer.

Disgusting.

I think its done for effect. People like to think of some poor lassie with a broken nose.

I'm an ex police officer and I can't see an obvious justification for this. Granted I never worked firearms (though worked with them quite regularly). All my training was about delivering physical blows to the centre mass of the body and deliberately avoiding the head. There will be occasions where it is justified to deliberately target the head, but these are rare and IMHO difficult to apply to a situation where it appears that someone is already down on the floor and incapacitated through Taser.

The stakes were always going to be higher because it was in an airport. Most officers would rather be under investigation for inappropriate use of force on an individual than risk not taking action and find they've failed to prevent a mass casualty situation in an airport. Add that to the fact that en route the officers were probably hearing about how violent the suspect was being towards the officers already in attendance and that one of them had already been injured. Then when they get there the suspect apparently continued to resist to the point of being tasered. Most people would stop being aggressive to police in an airport environment way before this point. All of which are indicative of an individual who is very determined to see out his end goal (which police have to consider may be terrorism) or someone who is intoxicated or having some sort of mental health episode (risk to the public will still override this in an airport until the situation is under control). So I can see how adrenaline overtook judgment, even for a firearms cop, but it is not ok unless there's a huge piece of information we're missing.

Now the middle class world of mumsnet may not like it, but these police will deal with scum, day in day out throughout their careers. Thieves, rapists, child abusers, murders, wife beaters.

As is increasingly becoming clear, quite a few police are themselves violent thugs, rapists and abusers. You don't need to be a 'middle class Mumsnetter' to understand that, or to know that dealing with scum doesn't mean you should be sinking to their level.

I suppose I'm middle class , older than many here. I have also been going about my business in Manchester and seen some appalling behaviour by the police. One of the most troubling was female.

There's a reason they emphasise that it was a female officer who had their nose broken, not just an officer

And that is......?

This is rubbish. Officers assaulting (including sexually assaulting), pushing around, being verbally abusive to innocent people is frightening common. Maybe take a look at the evidence for that. I really can’t be bothered to waste my time educating you.

We wouldn’t be hearing that it was a “male” Officer’s nose!

Why are people assuming the man on the floor broke the police officers nose? The police statement doesn't say she was punched or that the man on the floor was responsible. The two men being assualted were charged with affray, not assaulting a police officer.

Perhaps wait for the full story before using that as a justification for police brutality.

I’d love to see similar outrage against the man who stabbed the soldier.

What the hell has that got to do with this thread? This is a police officer's actions being discussed, not some random member of the public!

Are you kidding.
Not comparable in the slightest.
This thread is about police officers who have a responsibility to the public. Not act with brutality and unreasonable force.

Not condoning what's happened and we won't know what has gone on unless they do an independent review but I do I wonder how much trauma that police officer has been through to react like that