Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

It would take a public trial for everyone to understand exactly what happened, because frankly, two short videos don't tell us anything except two men violently resisted arrest and a police officer reacted in what could be seen as violently. No context is known beyond that

Fifth'd actually.

Having watched it again in slo mo it is very clear that every one of those blows connected with his head, AND he has been throttled, AND it was clear that the lunatic thug was not going to be kept down by the tasseling and was already coming round. Plus he had to prevent either of them from taking his firearm.

So that's an awful lot of mitigation, in fact.

If you want cops to think clearly and act by the book, don't try to give them a head injury or compromise their oxygen supply, is the lesson.

Hopefully you’re right on this

If the officer is charged there'll be a mutiny in the police force.

Yes you may be right. People need to think carefully whether they want police to be present at all

There really won’t. There aren’t many officers who think it’s ok to kick a prone person in the head or stamp on their head, regardless of what happened beforehand. I’ve discussed it at length within my Policing circles and no one thinks it’s ok. There will be no mutiny.

Long custodial sentences? You'd like to think but my money is on 18 months, serve 7, then back to the community to be lauded for "giving the feds a good slap innit"

WILL

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STAMPED

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as though it is an indisputable fact.

It looks much more like he stamped the floor next to his head and not on his head.

Besides which if he had stamped on his head he’d most likely still be in hospital with some sort of traumatic brain injury.

Interesting as my experience is the opposite.

It also needs to be remembered that it's the officer perception in that moment that counts and if that perception is reasonable.

It could come down to something as simple as, in the chaos of the moment did the officer reasonable believe the male was trying to get to his feet and if he was, considering all that had occurred was it reasonable to use that amount of force to prevent him doing so.

i should be shocked by the number of people who think it's ok for a police officer to kick someone, who they'd already tasered, in the head. but this is mumsnet so i'm rarely shocked by the vitriol here.
there's no excuse. it's awful the police were attacked at the airport but that doesn't give them the right to KICK SOMEONE IN THE HEAD.
no police officer in their right mind could defend this. a relative has been viciousy attacked as a serving police officer. there's no way they or anyone they work with would retaliate like that

Thugs trying to steal armed cops guns in an airport - they would have been stone cold dead in any other country

"Thugs trying to steal armed cops gun"

How have you seen that footage and come to that conclusion?

Also tired of pp saying "in X county they'd be dead!" As though it's relevant, or matters. In other countries you don't have access to abortions, homosexuals are killed, schools are regularly shot up etc we are more developed than this, and if you would rather live in those countries then by all means trot off there!

You say developed, I say soft.

There is a breakdown of the footage and the guys hand appears to at least touch his gun or his holster

Once again the question is... if someone is violently assaulting you and you feel their hand on your gun, is it reasonable to believe he is potentially trying to take it. 100% yes.

@whatnow123 yes when the perpetrator is tased and falling to the ground involuntarily it looks as though his hand momentarily goes near to the officer's holster. He's actively being tased. There is no grabbing motion or anything else to suggest that there was an intention to take it. That is a world apart from "thugs trying to steal armed cops gun".

IF the officer in the chaos of the moment thought that he was trying to take his gun that would be one thing, but we have the ability to watch it all back frame for frame in slow motion, so it seems a bit odd to frame the entire event as thugs attempting to steal an officers gun.

I was wondering about this.
On the picture where the two brothers are sitting next to that lawyer, none of them looks bruised?
Surely if the police officer had stamped on his head it would be visible the next day?

In the grand scheme of things, in terms of prosecution, all that matters is what the officer genuinely thought in the moment.

Even without the potential touch of the firearm the officer could have felt this was a life or death fight. With it, I think it's probably wholly reasonable that the officer believed he was in a life or death fight, not only for his life but others.

I hope you saw the full video 😂

Totally agree with this. And given what we have seen beforehand, IMO he would be justified in thinking that. As ive said in PP,nobody knows what was going through that officers head, it all happened so fast.

Yes can see why officer got angry.

However, a firearms officer should never loose control and get angry.

Ever.

I feel your expectations are unreasonable.

Nobody can ever promise they will.never get angry. I feel that is just an unrealistic expectation for any human.

I assume you are from North America

@chipsaway thats been shown to befake news. Its an old photo.

I did wonder myself given social media hence why I said that now in view of recent video footage, I hope the ‘victims’ also receive a charge. Thanks for pointing it out though