To think it’s completely and utterly unacceptable for men to compete in women’s sports?

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How the hell is this being allowed! I’ve seen the volume of medals they are earning - medals which should be earned by women. Men and women are not physically comparable and this is just a line which once again shouldn’t be crossed.

Me too, women can be so naive and easily manipulated unfortunately. All the men I know think it's stupid but laugh as it doesn't affect them in the least. Their view is it's good for them, less competition.

I was responding to someone who said it would be difficult and expensive to police participation in the correct sex category not commenting on current practices.

Which is good news for now, but reducing testosterone levels for two years doesnt take away the in built physical advantages of going through a male puberty, and while Paris might be safe I bet there are National Teams working out how they can subvert the new rulings for 2028 and get their boys back on the female rostrum. Let’s face it, developing DSD athletes to win medals is a lot more of a sure thing than initiating a grass roots system to find, develop , nurture, and train promising female athletes who despite all the input might not end up winning on the day.

Theses people are cheats
Pure and simple
Oh look I've won!
Eff of you cheating idiot, you're three times as bloody big!
Sorry, I need a lie-down now...

Probably been posted already

torontosun.com/sports/other-sports/transgender-athletes-sweep-podium-at-womens-cycling-championship

It's so weird; there's all the angst about drugs and then essentially a point of admin (a label) means that a whole raft of people can come along and shit all over the competition in the most unfair terms possible.

It would be great if every woman athlete at the Olympics just put a big two fingers up to the competition until governments everywhere legislated against it. Trans women are welcome to be women, just not when competing to be fastest, highest or strongest.

It's obviously absolute horseshit and anyone with a brain and a conscience knows that.

Yet so many are prepared to sit back and let this happen. Or worse, bully and harass women standing up for themselves.

It just shows you how little women count to some people. The last few years have been absolutely eye opening to me. I had no idea how ingrained this casual misogyny is. 🤬

Unbelievable that this has to be said. Long overdue for cricket, football and the other sports bodies pandering to these men cheats to wake up and start doing what they're meant to be doing. Ensure that women's sport is for women - no exceptions.

Probably with boners.

Yes.

Of course it is. It's bizarre that the question even needs to be asked.

But here we are.....because male entitlement knows no bounds nor the glee in mediocre sportsmen demonstrating their biological superiority over women (often literally when you look at their clothing where the anatomy is very evident).

Yes I agree. It’s the Emporor’s New Clothes again.

” I just happen to have a penis but you must agree with me I’m as much a woman as all you lot with vaginas «

Yes, of course ! Whatever you say ! 🤣

Women with vaginas should boycott sport until the women with penises stop participating.

I feel so sorry for the women that have trained all of their lives for this race. Mind you, isn’t this the same country where women aren’t allowed abortions? Enough said. Disgusting.

This is the nail on the head.

There does appear to be quite a uniform view on this post. It sounds as though the UK are further ahead than America in trying to sort he mess out.

Is there any appetite in the USA to put a stop to this?

Why is saying no to men a problem at all?

It's easy.

"You can't compete in women's sports, because you're male. End of discussion."

Why is this apparently so difficult?

Sick of all the virtue signalling bullshit. It’s always women losing out. To help with #bekind, sport should #befair.

It's batshittery on a grand scale.

And all the opinionated male pros and ex pros don't say a bloody word about it.

Any male competing is a narcissist cheat who treats women as props.

The fact people enable situations like this and then say their concerned about VAWG is unbelievable. Always knew women are seen as less than, but this really told me just how less than we are.

Most British sports bodies and also world sports bodies have updated their transgender policies the past year or so and have female and male/open categories.

Cycling certainly has so despite the link above I'm not how sure how it's happening at club level.

My ds is a swimmer. Clubs have to follow aquatics gb/ home nations gender policy when they run meets.

You can only swim in the female category if you are biologically born with female sex.

I know there's threads continuously on here with regards makes competing as females but in the real world of elite sport it just isn't happening.

If TWAW, so it's fair that they compete against women, then TMAM should be taking equal numbers in men's sports....

Funnily enough that's not happening because their female bodies make them uncompetitive against men so they have to compete in women's categories or not at all.

Just like female rape survivors should set up and fund their own single sex rape crisis support?

Er, no. Men just need to stay the hell out of places which are for women. However they identify.

If the previous government actually had really cared about women, instead of empty rhetoric, it would have been easy to effectively ban those who have gone through male puberty from competing in women's sports. No public (usually lottery) funding, no use of public facilities for competitions.

Follow that train of thought through to the end.

You say you have no issue with Lia Thomas now being a "she".

But that's how we've ended up with Lia Thomas competing in women's swimming events.

Because we all agreed that people like Lia are now "she", and so the next step was, "Well since she's a she, she can compete in women's sports."

The International Olympic Committee said something along the lines of, "Everybody understands that trans women are women" when defending its decision to let Laurel Hubbard compete in the women's weightlifting in Tokyo. Hubbard didn't win, but still deprived an 18 year old female athlete from a developing country of the opportunity to compete.

We are in this situation because we all (or most of us) agreed that male people could be women. And the only way out of it is to acknowledge that they are not actually women, and never can be.

If you are willing to say someone is a woman is becomes very difficult to explain why that person should not be allowed in places or sports which are for women.

They can do what they like as long as they don't make it women's problem.

Ten years ago we would have laughed at the idea of this and said, don’t be silly, that’ll never happen. Yet it is happening. I still struggle to believe it every time I read about men taking medals from women in women’s sports.