To think it’s completely and utterly unacceptable for men to compete in women’s sports?

[SwainedFreed]

How the hell is this being allowed! I’ve seen the volume of medals they are earning - medals which should be earned by women. Men and women are not physically comparable and this is just a line which once again shouldn’t be crossed.

That photo says it all. The winner with his cock and balls on full display but claiming his lady feelz make him a woman and therefore he’s entitled to compete in the female category.

Literally no one with eyes and a functioning brain can think that’s ok surely?

Well looks obviously have everything to do with it, duh! It's men dressed up and trying to look like women. It's not men looking like men wanting to compete with women is it.

She’s been in role 3 weeks. Amazing she’s had the retrospective power to write existing rule books for international sports organisations that don’t report t9 t(e U.K…

I get that but why should they give up their life’s work and sacrifice because the hurty feels of an entitled bloke takes priority over every single woman?

The daily mail has many many faults but it’s been the one man outlet to shine a light on the issue and lets its readers see with their own eyes whats going in

Maybe look at the situation in the U.K. rather than in the US where they’re all mental anyway. Most sports governing bodies in the U.K. have got a handle on this: there are no men competing in sanctioned women’s competitions and games in cycling, swimming, triathlon, rugby and many other sports. The real outliers are football, cricket and hockey where this remains a problem. Pressure from athletes, sponsors and funding bodies needs to be kept up on those governing bodies to follow the examples set by rugby and cycling.

Please don’t look at the insanity that goes on in the US and imagine that it is representative of the rest of the world because it’s just not.

Who are the 4% who think the OP is unreasonable???

Question: How many transmen compete in men's events - vs transwomen who try to muscle in on women's sports events ?

'ONLY' a profoundly misogynistic society could countenance that a man can be a woman. This has been so damaging to women, it's utterly batshit. If ever we needed proof of the patriarchy, the whole twaw shit show has delivered it.

What rams it home for me is that if a country started producing a species with 20 % potential physical advantage over men, they would NEVER EVER EVER be permitted to compete against men. It would get laughed at.

Funny how the whole trans rights argument is about men muscling into women’s spaces. Very little said about trans men

Anyone would think that however they choose to identify and present, their innate male entitlement shines through

@thursdaymurderclub
A man competing against women doesn't turn these women into "other women."

Out of interest do you get any women to male trans people competing against men, and presumably doing badly?

No it’s only ever about the men expecting women to move over.

Trans men wouldn’t stand a chance. It’s been shown repeatedly that even the elite female athletes can’t match up to mediocre men physically- wearing lipstick can’t change biological reality

I’m talking about what she’s said, not what she’s had time to do, clearly. The previous incumbent was up for taking these international sporting bodies (who don’t seem accountable to anyone currently) on. Someone needs to take a stand. And it’s perfectly feasible for the government to lay down regulations on how sport operates within the UK.

Unfortunately for Nandy - and more so us - she has a track record of opening mouth and making it clear her brain isn’t engaged when it comes to trans issues and women’s rights. You will recall she was really happy to allow male rapists to share a prison cell with vulnerable women. Her attitude to women’s sports lands on the back of that.

No, you said it was as it is because she chose not to change it. If you meant you didn’t think she’d make it better, that’s different. And actually in the U.K. most bodies don’t allow it anyway.

Exactly @sisterdelores..if the advantage to men is reduced by them 'being female' surely the opposite is true..wait...

I think future generations will do studies on the stupidity of how social contagion influenced genders and sex as subject. They will be incredulous that anyone believed this stuff.

What’s the point of girls even trying to excel in sport if they won’t win… how utterly demoralising.

Half of "the trans people" DO have to give up on competitive sports as a matter of course with nobody giving a fuck cos it's just these inconsequential females, innit. If you're alluding more specifically to men taking cross-sex hormones: they can go and compete in their proper sex category/mixed competitions and if they're not good enough anymore well that's just too bad, then that's their lifestyle choice. Women who identify as men often postpone cross-sex hormones until the end of their career because, well, it's one or the other and you can't compete in the women's while doped up on testo.

Sad to see this kind of dick-pandering on a feminist websute.

Lisa nandy grow a backbone and defend women’s and girls sport

It's not fair and should t be allowed at all. Ever.

Yes. There are a few in lighter weight boxing, and it's not uncommon in Asian martial sports like kickboxing. They hold their own with their peers, but it tends to be low-level competition and I doubt anyone will be winning World Championships any time soon.

Totally agree

Yes, I said she is choosing not to change it because she has said she’s not changing it…ie she didn’t say she’s his f to change it, she said the opposite. I’m not seeing your difficulty with what I said or why you’re nitpicking it. I’m talking about what she said herself.

What do you want Lisa Nandy to do about an amateur bike race in the US exactly?

Trans-identified males can’t compete in women’s bike races, at any level, in the U.K. under British Cycling rules and haven’t been able to for 3 years since the rules were changed.

YANBU but I thought this was very much a hot issue of a few years ago and that the majority of organisations hace a handle on it now. At least in UK and international comps. Is that not the case? I thought the testosterone rules were now strong enough to prevent almost all athletes who have gone through male puberty from competing against women?

Aren’t the rules different for elite sport where many bodies no longer allow biological men to compete as women? Grass roots and junior level sport still allows boys and men who claim to be female to compete against girls and play in female teams. And there’s a long list of girls with the injuries to prove it’s a very very bad idea

Remember when we were told this would never happen and we were all just getting hysterical and hateful over nothing?