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Why do people hate on my fur coat

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CleanCityBird · 21/07/2024 10:54

I’ve a fur coat that I inherited from my Grandmother. It’s a full length mink coat & I absolutely love it. I even wear it in summer.
As we’ve been having terrible weather I’ve been using it, and for the first time people are hating on me for wearing fur. They throw insults that I’m an animal killer, cruel, support the fur industry- on and on it goes.
I think it’s just jealousy. Others would love to own such a statement piece.
Are they all wrong and I’m right, I have a right to wear what I want, I didn’t kill anything & the coat comes from another era. Actually I’m saving it from landfill.

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Saoirse96 · 21/07/2024 22:08

As another useful person said: Imagine being judged for fur by people who eat meat or dairy products, who think that fur is frivolous but lattes and bacon are essential.

Didimum · 21/07/2024 22:24

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/07/2024 18:24

No , not up for discussiom as far as I'm concerened. It's like being racist or in favour of the death penalty

Ha. I see we’re dealing with someone not in the realm of reality. Fair enough. Please don’t let anyone in real life hear you comparing the tackiness of fur to racism – it’ll be rather mortifying for you.

OneBadKitty · 22/07/2024 13:32

I really don't think fur is seen as 'tacky' by most people. The fact that faux fur is almost universally used on lots of fashionable items from puffer coats, bobble hats, winter boots, gloves, scarves, bags etc. suggests a lot of people don't find it tacky. Faux fur coats are extremely popular and I think most people would associate them with glamour and luxury.

Killing and breeding animals for their fur is now not generally accepted but it is still a fashionable 'look' because we can now make something that feels and looks almost as beautiful as real fur with synthetic materials.

I'd much rather see people boycott companies which actually use real fur still than stop people wearing vintage inherited items. There's a lot of designer brands still farming and using fur.

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:00

CleanCityBird · 21/07/2024 10:54

I’ve a fur coat that I inherited from my Grandmother. It’s a full length mink coat & I absolutely love it. I even wear it in summer.
As we’ve been having terrible weather I’ve been using it, and for the first time people are hating on me for wearing fur. They throw insults that I’m an animal killer, cruel, support the fur industry- on and on it goes.
I think it’s just jealousy. Others would love to own such a statement piece.
Are they all wrong and I’m right, I have a right to wear what I want, I didn’t kill anything & the coat comes from another era. Actually I’m saving it from landfill.

Are you American? It's really not acceptable to wear fur in the UK. At all, ever.

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:01

Saoirse96 · 21/07/2024 22:08

As another useful person said: Imagine being judged for fur by people who eat meat or dairy products, who think that fur is frivolous but lattes and bacon are essential.

To kill an animal for vanity has to be the ultimate awfulness. Just completely unacceptable.

Saoirse96 · 22/07/2024 16:24

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:01

To kill an animal for vanity has to be the ultimate awfulness. Just completely unacceptable.

But it's a reusable piece of clothing that keeps you warm. For decades. You shit out a bacon roll in a couple hours. How is that not worse?

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:31

Saoirse96 · 22/07/2024 16:24

But it's a reusable piece of clothing that keeps you warm. For decades. You shit out a bacon roll in a couple hours. How is that not worse?

I get that it's vintage. When my MIL died, it fell to me to try to sell/donate her musquash coat. I couldn't find a home for it at all and in the end donated it to a drama group.
The point is that it's impossible to tell if a coat is vintage and so wearing fur normalises the wearing of fur. Lots of people think the 'fun fur' decoration on their clothes isn't fur but it's often some benighted rabbit from a country with different standards.
To normalise the wearing of fur means that a barbaric practice carries on.
I'm going to leave the 'shit out a bacon roll in a couple hours' on one side as it isn't the point of this conversation.

Saoirse96 · 22/07/2024 16:40

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:31

I get that it's vintage. When my MIL died, it fell to me to try to sell/donate her musquash coat. I couldn't find a home for it at all and in the end donated it to a drama group.
The point is that it's impossible to tell if a coat is vintage and so wearing fur normalises the wearing of fur. Lots of people think the 'fun fur' decoration on their clothes isn't fur but it's often some benighted rabbit from a country with different standards.
To normalise the wearing of fur means that a barbaric practice carries on.
I'm going to leave the 'shit out a bacon roll in a couple hours' on one side as it isn't the point of this conversation.

And that's absolutely what was right for you.

But my annoyance on this threat is at the hypocrisy.

What is the difference between all of the other ways that we consume and use animals, and fur? No one seems to be able to succinctly answer that.

You avoid the bacon roll analogy, because it defeats your basis.

No one has thrown shade at leather shoes (and by the way, quality leather is NOT from beef cattle), or haribos, or marshmallows, because these types of products are detached from the poor cows they derived from, and are marketed to appear to the consumer as benign.

It's such typically western ethos to be highly ethically selective and go for saving the cute fluffy animal. Which in this case, has been dead for half a century.

I'd much rather someone wore vintage fur than shopped at fast fashion outlets (slave labour), purchased synthetic, chemical materials with plastic embedded in them, which then leach into our environments as micro plastics, which end up in our bodies and children.

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:51

Saoirse96 · 22/07/2024 16:40

And that's absolutely what was right for you.

But my annoyance on this threat is at the hypocrisy.

What is the difference between all of the other ways that we consume and use animals, and fur? No one seems to be able to succinctly answer that.

You avoid the bacon roll analogy, because it defeats your basis.

No one has thrown shade at leather shoes (and by the way, quality leather is NOT from beef cattle), or haribos, or marshmallows, because these types of products are detached from the poor cows they derived from, and are marketed to appear to the consumer as benign.

It's such typically western ethos to be highly ethically selective and go for saving the cute fluffy animal. Which in this case, has been dead for half a century.

I'd much rather someone wore vintage fur than shopped at fast fashion outlets (slave labour), purchased synthetic, chemical materials with plastic embedded in them, which then leach into our environments as micro plastics, which end up in our bodies and children.

You are right about recycling, no argument from me.
I tried ever so hard to find a good use for old fur but not even animal shelters would accept it. Shoes are tricky, again no argument. The difference between meat and fur - I'm not a vegetarian or vegan and don't intend to be. I buy high welfare when I can. Fur, modern fur, is just vanity. No excuse, surely? Yes, your fur is vintage but I think the problem is what it represents.
Haribo-revolting. Marshmallows do use gelatine but I'm pretty sure you can get non-animal gelatine now. That said, surely animal gelatine would come under 'nose to tail ' eating which is more ethical?
Honestly, I think we make our own decisions about aspects of life. We may adjust those decisions over time, people do.
Life is tricky.

Saoirse96 · 22/07/2024 17:04

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/07/2024 16:51

You are right about recycling, no argument from me.
I tried ever so hard to find a good use for old fur but not even animal shelters would accept it. Shoes are tricky, again no argument. The difference between meat and fur - I'm not a vegetarian or vegan and don't intend to be. I buy high welfare when I can. Fur, modern fur, is just vanity. No excuse, surely? Yes, your fur is vintage but I think the problem is what it represents.
Haribo-revolting. Marshmallows do use gelatine but I'm pretty sure you can get non-animal gelatine now. That said, surely animal gelatine would come under 'nose to tail ' eating which is more ethical?
Honestly, I think we make our own decisions about aspects of life. We may adjust those decisions over time, people do.
Life is tricky.

Thank you for your response. I do agree that modern, newly processed fur when there are alternatives available is yes, wrong. But I don't think that vintage fur perpetuates that.

I think you've hit the nail on the hammer - it is indeed hard to live completely ethically. Especially when finances are limited, and we do not have land enough to support ourselves from giving autonomy and control over what we eat or wear.

Therefore, my final point is that we should not be so eager to throw stones, (at the vintage-fur-wearing-folks) after all - we are all in glass houses.

hellotitty999 · 30/01/2025 21:01

i'll take it 👋

godmum56 · 30/01/2025 21:08

"Hit the nail on the hammer"
😂

Yalta · 31/01/2025 11:04

I think wearing a real fur coat ages you

It’s got old woman vibes. Live in London and the people I occasionly see wearing real fur are usually 70 plus years old (or maybe they are only 58 and look 70+ in fur)

I think the reason people don’t want fur is 3
fold.

  1. Because they don’t want paint thrown at them

2 Because they are vegetarian/vegan or don’t want to associate with what everyone knows is a gruesome process to get the fur needed.

3 Because they have gone out of fashion
It’s the equivalent of trying to sell flaired jeans and platform shoes in 1987

Waitingfordoggo · 31/01/2025 11:12

YABU for using the phrase 'hating on'.

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 31/01/2025 11:13

Personally I don't have a problem with it if it is vintage/inherited, but I would be nervous about wearing it in the UK for the reasons you mentioned.

I have a friend who lives in a very cold country and has a few vintage fur coats and hats - it is much more accepted there, probably because it can be so cold it is viewed as a necessity. But I think to some extent you have to adapt to local customs or accept that what you're doing won't be to everybody's taste.

Whatonearth07957 · 31/01/2025 13:37

Just say it's faux. I love my inherited mink, nasty creatures that kill for fun. But lovely and warm.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 31/01/2025 13:42

ilovesooty · 21/07/2024 11:02

"Statement piece"?

How pretentious.

My sister and I inherited one. Neither of us wanted it.

How is that pretentious?
I love real fur, leather etc. People eat animals and judge for fur, animals still died either way. Of course I prefer if the fur was a bi product rather than killed for the just the fur.
Eskimos the Sami people etc would perish if it wasn't for these valuable resources.
It's much better than fake plastic fur and pleather, both of which take much longer to break down.
Op don't take any notice of the judges.

thecherryfox · 31/01/2025 13:44

I don’t see anything wrong with wearing something you inherited. I’m vegan and I wouldn’t wear it myself, but it’s a free country with free choice, just because I don’t believe in something doesn’t mean others have the same beliefs.

Also, everyone that’s is getting offended I’m sure you’re very hypocritical. Do you eat meat? Because if the answer is yes then what is the difference between an animal dying for food or for clothing when either way they’re dying for your consumption anyway.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/01/2025 13:49

thecherryfox · 31/01/2025 13:44

I don’t see anything wrong with wearing something you inherited. I’m vegan and I wouldn’t wear it myself, but it’s a free country with free choice, just because I don’t believe in something doesn’t mean others have the same beliefs.

Also, everyone that’s is getting offended I’m sure you’re very hypocritical. Do you eat meat? Because if the answer is yes then what is the difference between an animal dying for food or for clothing when either way they’re dying for your consumption anyway.

Both your points have been covered at length. For the first one, it validates the acceptability of wearing fur.

For the second, there is a huge difference between an animal being used as a food product and one being killed only for its fur. Food production isn't perfect but is far more likely to adhere to welfare standards than fur production.

Beth216 · 31/01/2025 13:51

Whatonearth07957 · 31/01/2025 13:37

Just say it's faux. I love my inherited mink, nasty creatures that kill for fun. But lovely and warm.

' nasty creatures that kill for fun' - domestic cats that are well fed often hunt for fun, should we make them into fur coats too?

No animal hunts for 'fun' in actual fact, except ironically humans - in all other animals it is instinct driven.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 31/01/2025 14:09

Whatonearth07957 · 31/01/2025 13:37

Just say it's faux. I love my inherited mink, nasty creatures that kill for fun. But lovely and warm.

Why would you want to wear a "nasty creature"?

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/01/2025 14:18

Whatonearth07957 · 31/01/2025 13:37

Just say it's faux. I love my inherited mink, nasty creatures that kill for fun. But lovely and warm.

Ridiculous anthromphorisation. Animals aren't nasty or nice.

Whatonearth07957 · 31/01/2025 15:03

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/01/2025 14:18

Ridiculous anthromphorisation. Animals aren't nasty or nice.

I'm not imagining the mink rubbing their little paws together plotting their next bloodfest of the chicken coop, none of which they are interested in eating. I'm just expressing my opinion of their animals instincts and drawing a conclusion. I think wasps are nasty creatures too, based on nothing other than the annoyance they cause me, happily swat them! I accept my opinion is based on my human-centric and entirely self-centred position but luckily it's an opinion, which are like arseholes in that everyone has one.

Whatonearth07957 · 31/01/2025 15:05

Also I think their fur is not-nasty but nice

FarmGirl78 · 31/01/2025 15:25

I'm not the slightest bit jealous. I think you assuming people are is more distasteful than the coat.