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Was I wrong to say this to sister ?

167 replies

AutumnalNights · 20/07/2024 20:06

She is 40, still at home. Works but it's low paid and she is single.
I am 34, just moved out with fiance , he is paying the mortgage which I know I am very fortunate for as I wouldn't be able to move out alone either.
Anyway I suggested sister should get a cat (family are on board) and she seemed really off with me and said 'Why does everyone keep saying that? If I get one it keeps me stuck here in the family home or is that what everyone wants?' Was this insensitive of me ? I just think it would be nice for her as realistically, saving up for her own flat in the area we live in will take many years and I'm not saying that nastily but we all know how tough it is out there. Why not have something that could give her some joy in the meantime ?

OP posts:
2catsandhappy · 20/07/2024 21:45

I've just realised what I can call my next cat,
'Fiance'.

and you can be sure I'll be bringing that up every chance I get.

Obbydoo · 20/07/2024 21:47

AutumnalNights · 20/07/2024 20:21

She loves cats I should have said in my first post.

Don't know why people are judging living situations, very judgemental when you look at the price of properties and if you are on a single income it's doubly hard.

Yes, I know I am lucky but no I am not smug.

Lucky? You've admitted a man is going to be paying your mortgage. I'd be ashamed that I couldn't contribute to putting a roof over my head at the age of 34, I certainly wouldn't be telling people I'm lucky. I wouldn't tell anyone at all!

godmum56 · 20/07/2024 21:47

2catsandhappy · 20/07/2024 21:45

I've just realised what I can call my next cat,
'Fiance'.

and you can be sure I'll be bringing that up every chance I get.

😂

OnAndOnAndonAgain · 20/07/2024 21:52

She's 40 , if she wanted a bloody cat she'd get one

pizzaHeart · 20/07/2024 21:52

ToxicChristmas · 20/07/2024 20:12

It is a bit weird. It comes across you all think she's a sad loner!

This^
Whatever you are saying now the underlying message from your suggestion: you won’t get a partner or children anyway so at least you will have a cat.
it doesn’t work like this. By the way you and your BF could separate in 2 years and you could be back to parents (as you are not paying mortgage) whereas your sister might find someone, move out, get pregnant and have twins.
So you probably need a cat as well, just in case.

WiddlinDiddlin · 20/07/2024 21:53

Eh... if she wanted to own a cat, she'd have one surely?

I like horses. I don't have one for a variety of very good reasons, much as I'd love one and it absolutely would be 'something to love' and 'give me joy'... I don't actually want my own horse.

I think it is really patronising and like you're saying 'well there is no hope for you, so get yourself a pet to lavish all the love and attention you won't give to a partner and child, upon'.

boredsoscrollingonMNagain · 20/07/2024 22:00

This is so weird . Why are you so bothered about your older sister having a cat ? Why do people keep suggesting she gets a cat ? Why have you all just decided that because she’s 40 and living at home she needs a cat ? Why are you so offended that she doesn’t like your suggestion of a cat ? Why do your parents not just get a cat ? Why don’t you have a cat ? Cat . 🐈‍⬛

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 20/07/2024 22:07

You come across as insufferably smug.
Living off a man is hardly a badge of honour.

Life2Short4Nonsense · 20/07/2024 22:11

@AutumnalNights There is no difference between your sister's situation and yours. You are both dependent on other people for a roof over your head. Why don't you get a cat?

Xtraincome · 20/07/2024 22:12

You were very wrong, OP. You should have suggested she purchase a parrot like the one on insta who whistles September by Earth Wind and Fire while bopping its head.

Seriously though, it is a touch insensitive as you have just moved out with a clearly financially stable partner to support you. Maybe everyone needs to just back off your DSis for a bit.

LadyKenya · 20/07/2024 22:13

Changingplace · 20/07/2024 20:15

What a weird thing to suggest, equally why don’t you get a cat? You sound quite smug tbh, and considering you’ve only been able to move out yourself is because your husband is paying I’m not sure why you think you’re doing so much better than her?

Who’s to say she has no ‘joy’ don’t be so condescending.

She is not even married yet. She should worry about her own position frankly.

Viviennemary · 20/07/2024 22:17

Of course it was insensitive. Get a cat??? Get a cat yourself if you are that keen on cats. Probably less trouble than a husband.

Namename12345562 · 20/07/2024 22:17

RappersNeedChapstick · 20/07/2024 20:13

Having been single at 30 and lots of people making "helpful" comments I can't imagine how she feels at 40. It's like saying, ok, we all know you're not meeting "the one" or ever moving out.

Sorry OP but I think you have been insensitive.

I agree but I also don’t think you’ve intentionally been insensitive, I think it’s a case of someone wanting to ‘fix’ things for someone else and they don’t want or need that 🤷🏻‍♀️ but I do think you meant well.

pizzaHeart · 20/07/2024 22:18

Xelda · 20/07/2024 20:51

Reminds me of the Christmas as a single 30 something when a couple of siblings each bought me Bridget Jones related gifts and a copy of The Rules. It was at a low point of my life and I discreetly took myself off for a little cry...😢

It’s very mean of them. Hope you’ve got your revenge since then but if not we are here to help you to choose relevant presents for them this Christmas.

Namename12345562 · 20/07/2024 22:22

pizzaHeart · 20/07/2024 22:18

It’s very mean of them. Hope you’ve got your revenge since then but if not we are here to help you to choose relevant presents for them this Christmas.

JC I can only imagine the siblings had never properly been single as adults 🤷🏻‍♀️

LordBuckley · 20/07/2024 22:27

Sorry, I agree with all those who say that’s really offensive.

It reminds me of when my sister said, when I was about 35, "Do you think you’ll ever get married?", and my Auntie bought me a "Cooking for One" recipe book.

(I did have a cat, though...)

autienotnaughti · 20/07/2024 22:37

I'd find that quite patronising. I'm not surprised it irritated her. She's a adult who can decide what she wants for her self

EI12 · 20/07/2024 22:38

What a horrible thing to say. You might have just as well came out with 'you are a spinster, where is the requisite feature - a cat?' Why is it her business? Oh, the cruelty. I hope she marries well and in doing so outranks you - like in Downton Abbey, and then gives you advice on what you should do as realistically, you won't be able to afford anything else.

BowlOfNoodles · 20/07/2024 22:40

It's like saying it's a wrap midlife time to get a cat.

ForGreyKoala · 20/07/2024 22:41

I'm struggling to see how having a cat keeps her stuck in the family home Confused I had five cats in my last rented flat, and three in this one. At one stage, between the three flats here (all rented) there were nine cats.

Even if it does keep her at home - she's 40, if she really wanted to move out she would have done so by now so I can't see her moving during a cat's lifetime.

ForGreyKoala · 20/07/2024 22:43

autienotnaughti · 20/07/2024 22:37

I'd find that quite patronising. I'm not surprised it irritated her. She's a adult who can decide what she wants for her self

It was merely a suggestion.

Boy MN is a weird place at times. Suggesting someone gets a cat inspiring all this drama. 🙄

pizzaHeart · 20/07/2024 22:45

BlackCatsForever · 20/07/2024 21:40

Very OTT reactions on this thread. All of you who are berating the OP must clearly think there’s something shameful in being a single woman in your 30’s/40’s with, shock, horror, a cat, or you wouldn’t see OP’s suggestion as such an insult. You are all the ones who brought up the tired, sexist Crazy Cat Lady trope.

I got a cat when single in my 30’s - it wasn’t because I was a Crazy Cat Lady. Funnily enough it was because I like cats! People at the time, knowing my love of cats, had suggested to me that I got one; should I have been offended by this?

I’m married with a family now - so I suppose that means it’s now ok for me to have a cat! Phew! I’ve also suggested to my (single, fellow-cat loving) brother that he get a cat; he didn’t seem offended but of course it’s acceptable for men to have cats; only single women are shamed for it.

Single women are allowed to have cats FFS!

It was the insult because of the context otherwise to have a cat is pure joy whatever age and sex you are.

StaunchMomma · 20/07/2024 22:51

I'm not sure I believe that comment was as innocent as you're saying it is, OP.

There's no way you haven't heard the stereotype of single women with cats?!

Agree that you sound 'smug married'.

autienotnaughti · 20/07/2024 23:00

@ForGreyKoala the issue is there's a stereotype of single cat lady which is seen as a negative in society so it's actually quite offensive . If her sister was married would she have suggested she get a cat?

MiddleagedBeachbum · 20/07/2024 23:01

Don’t give out advice or suggestions.

She didn’t ask for it.

People get sick of ‘free advice’ and suggestions!

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