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Relocated for parents and they are MIA.

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Hereformysanity · 19/07/2024 15:06

Hi Mumsnet, I'm new to this so I'm very sorry in advance if I haven't got the lingo right! Hopefully it makes sense.

So long story short. 5 years ago my DH and I relocated to be closer to my parents after having our DD after they guilty tripped us about being too far away for them to spend time with her and get to know her. We were 2 hours away. We were looking to move anyway but had quite an open net just needed to be near to wither London or Manchester for work (we both work in corporate jobs which my mum in particular is very dismissive of as not a real job as you are just sat all day) but we were persuaded by my parents and in hindsight their passive aggressive attitude about us wanting to live elsewhere they were vocal and I quote 'it would be very selfish of us and stupid to give up grandparent help) but admittedly we liked the idea of grandparent help occasionally and didn't have in laws as they are overseas so any help was great.

So with that we moved closer to parents and brother and sister. 20 minutes away. My brother doesn't have kids but my sister has kids same age as mine and they live ten minutes closer to my parents.

Fast forward five years we now have DD and DS. I struggled with getting used to two DH was away a lot with work and I felt very alone and overwhelmed both kids at home. We have had very little help during the five years we have been here from my parents as they are 'too busy'. My parents both work part time to pay for a house that is big and empty and falling to pieces because they are too proud to downsize. I'm sure somewhere on here there will be a thread from my siblings about this matter as it's a real pain to see them moaning and moaning about still working to pay off their mortgage and do up their home when downsizing would be a very easy solution and would leave them much happier. We have concluded they like the stress and having something to moan about.

Anyway due to my parents working they have never once in 5 years offered childcare not a zip. When we moved I enrolled my DD in nursery 4 full days a week as parents never even offered as much as a morning once a week even bought I asked but took great pleasure in telling me how awful it is that I'm putting my child in nursery for someone else to raise.

I love my.job but more than that I have bills to pay but my DM in particular thinks it's selfish of me to work when I have children. (She only started working when my sister was 10 and had been a SAHM to that point with lots of grandparent help) My DD is now in school and has 3 days of after school clubs and DS in nursery 4 days as I have no other options and all I ever hear is tutting and "oh bless them, poor kids, I can't believe you just put them in and leave them all day like that". It's so hard not to lose my mind.

I would love my parents to do a pick up and take them home for tea or have my DS for just a morning to 'get to know him' but they have no interest in offering despite me saying how much I would love that. To add insult to injury they do this for my sister!

It's fine I'm managing it's just I have a lot of resentment that for the sake of keeping the status quo and everyone being pleasant I'm bottling it and it's causing me to harbour resentment which is not healthy and it's bloody hard seeing all these fab grandparents at the school gates or hearing friends talk about how lovely it is there parents have their children a few days a week or some even taking them on holidays!!!!!

The 6 weeks are here and I've had to arrange private childcare all the way apart from 10.days where between DH and myself we've managed to get some A/L to cover but we both work in teams of parents so everyone wants time off and simply you don't always get it. Despite me explaining this to my parents and saying how much it would be really helpful to get help to only have them say oh sorry we are working or are just we are busy but then go on to criticise what I have had to do!!!!! Raaaa
I feel like it comes from a place of bitterness that I lived away for ten years and then came back need help but they withhold as a bit of a ha you can't just come here and now have our help (despite that being exactly what they had said when we were looking at moving).

I just feel completely bashed. I work hard as we all do to give our kids the best start and pay for life which isn't cheap and to have been what felt like guilt tripping and huge promises about getting to know grandkids to get us here but now we are here I can count on one hand, in five years, how often my parents, who are ten miles away, have had the kids without me or husband present. On two hands I can count this and the times they have babysat for us for anniversary's but only once the kids are fast asleep will they come and sit in the house for us so they don't even see the kids. My kids are really easy going too thank god so it's not like they can't cope, my parents are young and active. Am I wrong to expect a bit more and to be sad that there's clearly favouritism towards my sister or just total disregard and possibly a little pleasure in seeing me try and have it all?

Whilst where we live is nice it's not where we would be for any other reason than family, I just feel like my parents made empty promises and they love to paint this image that they are really hands on with all grandkids and it's simply not true and they would not react at all well if I said any of this to them so I haven't forgotten the same of keeping the peace.

Sorry for the whingefest!

OP posts:
Becles · 19/07/2024 15:09

due to my parents working they have never once in 5 years offered childcare not a zip

They are working, just like you are when you're unavailable to take care of your children.

Why is your work more important than theirs?

WallaceinAnderland · 19/07/2024 15:10

Your parents never promised childcare did they?

You didn't have to move, you made these choices. If it's not working out for you move to somewhere you prefer.

I'm not sure what the problem is really.

UncharteredWaters · 19/07/2024 15:12

The next time there is any judgement I’d not be behind the back door in pointing all this out to them…..

‘poor baba at nursery…’
’are you offering childcare’
’we’re too busy’
’youre doing it for my sister…..’ and stop talking….

StormingNorman · 19/07/2024 15:12

They enticed you to move with promises of helping with the children and have never once offered. I’m sorry, but they lured you there under false pretences.

I get that grandparents don’t owe their children childcare but they offered!

They sound quite controlling and undermining overall. I’m sorry OP. Have they always been difficult?

sunlovingcriminal · 19/07/2024 15:14

WallaceinAnderland · 19/07/2024 15:10

Your parents never promised childcare did they?

You didn't have to move, you made these choices. If it's not working out for you move to somewhere you prefer.

I'm not sure what the problem is really.

The op says they did in her second paragraph.

TheCookieCrumblesThisWay · 19/07/2024 15:15

StormingNorman · 19/07/2024 15:12

They enticed you to move with promises of helping with the children and have never once offered. I’m sorry, but they lured you there under false pretences.

I get that grandparents don’t owe their children childcare but they offered!

They sound quite controlling and undermining overall. I’m sorry OP. Have they always been difficult?

Agreed. Are you still happy where you live? If there’s nothing tying you to the location I would consider moving somewhere else and going low contact. It’s clear your parents treat your siblings better and save the snide remarks about work and parenting to you.

Swisscave · 19/07/2024 15:16

I’m sure being successful in your job you’ve had to deal with difficult people…..they’re difficult people.

Stop waiting for them to ask. They won’t.

Ask specifically about dates and times. If they say no, remind them that they look after the other grandkids and they must treat them fairly.

Stop being meek and stand up for yourself.

If you DM gives it the whole, ‘ poor kid stuck in daycare’- say ‘great, you can have them round at yours then’

Stop taking shit from them and make them and the wider family aware that they have to start treating the grandchildren equally. If they don’t, then that’s a different decision you have to make.

FluffMagnet · 19/07/2024 15:19

The cynic in me thinks they are lining you up for future care as they age.

Your mum doesn't sound very nice - do you even like her? It sounds as though you need to consider dropping the rope I'm afraid.

Spirallingdownwards · 19/07/2024 15:26

Before moving you should have firmed up precisely what and whether childcare was on offer and made it clear you could only move if what was agreed by way of childcare was available. You know where you and your DH need to be to work so knew that by moving he would be less available. That's on you both not them .

Also I have no sympathy with your whingefest as you call it about their house. They are of working age and paying towards a mortgage of an asset that will continually increase in value and they will presumably sell and downsize when they want to. In the meantime that asset is growing by way of mortgage getting smaller and property prices increasing. They are being sensible with their future finances. They aren't that old if still working. Why would you think they are available for childcare if they work? Or did you assume they would drop everything for you.

The main issue is you did not get it firmed up whether or what childcare was on offer before moving.

If the answer is none and it would be easier to have your DH around more then move back.

Createausername1970 · 19/07/2024 15:28

The next time DM starts with the "poor babies" malarky, then just say

"is that an offer of help mum? No? Then as there is no alternative please don't keep going on about it"

Or

"Is that an offer of help mum? No, because you need to work to pay for your house? So do I - so what's your suggestion?"

Brefugee · 19/07/2024 15:28

you are very judgy about your parents. If i were them I'd be MIA too, tbh

WallaceinAnderland · 19/07/2024 15:30

sunlovingcriminal · 19/07/2024 15:14

The op says they did in her second paragraph.

Are you referring to 'grandparent help'? That's very different to childcare. That's a bit of babysitting now and then which OP says they have done.

I think OP massively misunderstood the situation and is trying to blame the parents for her choices.

itsmylife7 · 19/07/2024 15:32

Becles · 19/07/2024 15:09

due to my parents working they have never once in 5 years offered childcare not a zip

They are working, just like you are when you're unavailable to take care of your children.

Why is your work more important than theirs?

You missed the "they do it for my sisters kids "

Growlybear83 · 19/07/2024 15:34

Why do people expect parents to downsize once children have left home? I see this so often on Mumsnet. OP - your parents are still clearly of working age and maybe they love their home and don't want to downsize? I reached retirement age last year but I'm still working part time, partly so that I can afford to continue to maintain our house and not be reliant on my pension. I have lived in my home for over 30 years and can see no reason why we should consider moving just because there's only the two of us here most of the time.

user1471538283 · 19/07/2024 15:35

You were sold a pup. You moving was for their convenience not to get to know they'd DGC at all.

My DM used to gasp about my leaving my DS with "strangers" so I could work. She never once spent even an hour with him. And when I was 2 I was at kindergarten whilst she sat on her arse all day but she always forgot that.

hope247 · 19/07/2024 15:36

My own situation is very similar, my parents have taken care of my sister's children full time and saved her years of nursery fees. I can count on one hand the times they have had mine. They've even told they cant help me incase my sister needs them! I recognise that my parents treat me unfairly compared to my sister. I cope by going LC and keep conversations light.

TemuSpecialBuy · 19/07/2024 15:40

Createausername1970 · 19/07/2024 15:28

The next time DM starts with the "poor babies" malarky, then just say

"is that an offer of help mum? No? Then as there is no alternative please don't keep going on about it"

Or

"Is that an offer of help mum? No, because you need to work to pay for your house? So do I - so what's your suggestion?"

Agreed.

I dont think yabu but I'm a big believer in say what you see

Littlemisscapable · 19/07/2024 15:40

You are not being at all unreasonable but you will be told by lots of.people on here that you are. I totally get it..its sad and disappointing. But ts time to reevaluate. They are absolutely not going to change or behave differently..Once you can accept that it gets easier. Do you want to live where you are ? In a few more years your dcs won't need as much support or help, meanwhile you will manage fine without them. What sort of relationship do you want with them? Work that out and have your own boundaries too, if this is how it's going to be. They are missing out.

WallaceinAnderland · 19/07/2024 15:43

It sounds like you resent your parents and they resent you for whatever reason. Wouldn't it be better to just do what's right for you, your dh and your dc, and stop worrying about what you parents want you to do.

muddyford · 19/07/2024 15:44

What's MIA?

BirthdayRainbow · 19/07/2024 15:45

TBH I couldn't read it all but next time your mum criticises you about your child being in nursery ask her what the solution is. She doesn't get to bully you without offering a solution. Then you remind her of all the free help she had from her mother and that everything was cheaper then.

Then I'd look to move to be where I wanted to live.

Inkyblue123 · 19/07/2024 15:45

If you’re not happy move away.

Towelmode · 19/07/2024 15:48

Move away while you can as they will be a nightmare if they need help getting older. Run, run as fast as you can!

Towelmode · 19/07/2024 15:50

Why do people expect parents to downsize once children have left home? I see this so often on Mumsnet. OP - your parents are still clearly of working age and maybe they love their home and don't want to downsize?

People generally think it’s sensible for their parents to downsize when their house is getting too much for them and whilst they are young enough to do it. In many situations it’s good advice.

Towelmode · 19/07/2024 15:52

One of my relatives keeps talking about downsizing but hasn’t as yet. She is now sleeping more on the sofa as she can’t always manage the stairs (absolutely doesn’t want a stair lift) and doesn’t have a downstairs toilet.

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